Supercharger vs Turbo.... OFFICIAL ARGUMENT THREAD.
04-19-2016, 02:57 PM
#142
I think more people have blowers since the majority of people want a bolton and go solution that more companies offer via a supercharger. A large percentage of turbo kits are home grown and the people that build them are going to look to other DIY turbo owners for ideas and comparison to what works. Plus the people that built their own kit are usually a different breed compared to those that just do boltons so probably someone you could hang out and drink a beer with.
04-19-2016, 04:19 PM
#143
As my kids get older, and my free time possibly increases, I would love to do a turbo kit, just to have done it and see if I like it.
My thing is, I like the 6-speed and rowing gears, and I've heard people say that turbos and sticks aren't ideal.
My thing is, I like the 6-speed and rowing gears, and I've heard people say that turbos and sticks aren't ideal.
04-20-2016, 06:46 AM
#145
I don't understand the people who say a centri blower is a heat problem. When I dyno tuned my car, after 3 pulls in a row, I was able to touch my blower and sure, it was warm, probably 120-140 degrees, but it wasn't glowing hot like a turbo or positive displacement blower.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
04-20-2016, 08:29 AM
#146
I don't understand the people who say a centri blower is a heat problem. When I dyno tuned my car, after 3 pulls in a row, I was able to touch my blower and sure, it was warm, probably 120-140 degrees, but it wasn't glowing hot like a turbo or positive displacement blower.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
04-20-2016, 08:45 AM
#147
listen smartass, obviously you can, I never negated that. What I'm trying to get people to focus on is the power output they do produce, which turbos dominate. Not how easy they are to install or how much it hurts your ***** to spend more time installing a turbo kit. Seems the only positive of a blower is how easy they bolt on... so when you lose to a turbo car, i mean hey, atleast you spent less time installing it right?
04-20-2016, 09:23 AM
#149
I don't understand the people who say a centri blower is a heat problem. When I dyno tuned my car, after 3 pulls in a row, I was able to touch my blower and sure, it was warm, probably 120-140 degrees, but it wasn't glowing hot like a turbo or positive displacement blower.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
Guess that meth injection into the inlet helps.
I agree that meth injection and E85 work wonders for heat control on both setups! My treadstone IC works well enough for the price but I am debating putting a meth kit back on the car for the warmer days. But even on a warm day and 25psi I've yet to see over 150 IAT which is fine with E85.
04-25-2016, 09:04 PM
#153
And you are wrong again.
But congrats on building a turbo setup in less than a year.
With the same power output the centri is easier to modulate. Anything over about 600hp is constantly negotiating power at street legal speeds on street legal tires. Even my old D1 setup would blow off 335s at 70mph. What I was getting at is the power delivery of a centri blower is more linear in how the boost comes on so you can modulate the throttle easier without such large boost fluctuations, same with shifting.
I really have no dog in this fight since I love the S475 on my awd auto truck setup where traction is better and boost is held between shifts. But in a manual rwd nose heavy street/strip car the turbo is more difficult to manage, if you have to get out of it at all your run is over.
Bring on all the "my turbos dont lag" and "my tiny turbodick spools instant but also makes 1000hp comments"
04-26-2016, 02:01 AM
#154
I had a turbo car for a while and I could not stop all the hot ***** that would walk buy while it was running and they would start kicking rocks at it.
I went ahead and did the procharger thing.......which led to another problem, now I have to throw rocks at all the bad bitches that are within a 100' radius of the truck while it is running. I have to throw the rocks cause I'm married and my wife is hot.
I went ahead and did the procharger thing.......which led to another problem, now I have to throw rocks at all the bad bitches that are within a 100' radius of the truck while it is running. I have to throw the rocks cause I'm married and my wife is hot.
04-26-2016, 06:29 AM
#155
Had a funny comment this weekend when I went to a big cars-n-coffee meet by me. It was so large, cops were directing traffic, and as I rolled up to an officer sitting in line, waiting to park, he leaned over towards me and commented that I'm moving a lot of air....
I thought that was pretty funny. I replied, nope, it's just a bad alternator bearing, and he laughed.
I thought that was pretty funny. I replied, nope, it's just a bad alternator bearing, and he laughed.
04-26-2016, 07:01 AM
#156
Had a funny comment this weekend when I went to a big cars-n-coffee meet by me. It was so large, cops were directing traffic, and as I rolled up to an officer sitting in line, waiting to park, he leaned over towards me and commented that I'm moving a lot of air....
I thought that was pretty funny. I replied, nope, it's just a bad alternator bearing, and he laughed.
I thought that was pretty funny. I replied, nope, it's just a bad alternator bearing, and he laughed.
04-26-2016, 08:49 AM
#158
Sorry just noticed this thread is still in action!
And you are wrong again.
But congrats on building a turbo setup in less than a year.
With the same power output the centri is easier to modulate. Anything over about 600hp is constantly negotiating power at street legal speeds on street legal tires. Even my old D1 setup would blow off 335s at 70mph. What I was getting at is the power delivery of a centri blower is more linear in how the boost comes on so you can modulate the throttle easier without such large boost fluctuations, same with shifting.
I really have no dog in this fight since I love the S475 on my awd auto truck setup where traction is better and boost is held between shifts. But in a manual rwd nose heavy street/strip car the turbo is more difficult to manage, if you have to get out of it at all your run is over.
Bring on all the "my turbos dont lag" and "my tiny turbodick spools instant but also makes 1000hp comments"
And you are wrong again.
But congrats on building a turbo setup in less than a year.
With the same power output the centri is easier to modulate. Anything over about 600hp is constantly negotiating power at street legal speeds on street legal tires. Even my old D1 setup would blow off 335s at 70mph. What I was getting at is the power delivery of a centri blower is more linear in how the boost comes on so you can modulate the throttle easier without such large boost fluctuations, same with shifting.
I really have no dog in this fight since I love the S475 on my awd auto truck setup where traction is better and boost is held between shifts. But in a manual rwd nose heavy street/strip car the turbo is more difficult to manage, if you have to get out of it at all your run is over.
Bring on all the "my turbos dont lag" and "my tiny turbodick spools instant but also makes 1000hp comments"
04-26-2016, 09:10 AM
#159
Originally Posted by 99bluefirebird
Sorry just noticed this thread is still in action!
And you are wrong again.
But congrats on building a turbo setup in less than a year.
With the same power output the centri is easier to modulate. Anything over about 600hp is constantly negotiating power at street legal speeds on street legal tires. Even my old D1 setup would blow off 335s at 70mph. What I was getting at is the power delivery of a centri blower is more linear in how the boost comes on so you can modulate the throttle easier without such large boost fluctuations, same with shifting.
I really have no dog in this fight since I love the S475 on my awd auto truck setup where traction is better and boost is held between shifts. But in a manual rwd nose heavy street/strip car the turbo is more difficult to manage, if you have to get out of it at all your run is over.
Bring on all the "my turbos dont lag" and "my tiny turbodick spools instant but also makes 1000hp comments"
And you are wrong again.
But congrats on building a turbo setup in less than a year.
With the same power output the centri is easier to modulate. Anything over about 600hp is constantly negotiating power at street legal speeds on street legal tires. Even my old D1 setup would blow off 335s at 70mph. What I was getting at is the power delivery of a centri blower is more linear in how the boost comes on so you can modulate the throttle easier without such large boost fluctuations, same with shifting.
I really have no dog in this fight since I love the S475 on my awd auto truck setup where traction is better and boost is held between shifts. But in a manual rwd nose heavy street/strip car the turbo is more difficult to manage, if you have to get out of it at all your run is over.
Bring on all the "my turbos dont lag" and "my tiny turbodick spools instant but also makes 1000hp comments"
Last edited by oscs; 04-26-2016 at 09:39 AM.
04-26-2016, 03:36 PM
#160
I'm surprised nobody has brought up the cost. How many $525 superchargers are out there? I couldn't justify the cost of a big supercharger so I got a $525 turbo and some pipe welded to stock manifolds. Even with a little 5.3L it goes just as fast or faster then F1 Prochargers on bigger engines. Bigger bang for the buck to me!