Summit Racing Intercoolers
Summit Racing Intercoolers Has anyone had any experience with summit racing’s intercoolers?
Planning for 700hp on a VS Racing 80mm and 6.0 combo and was looking for an 800+ hp rated intercooler.
Treadstone’s TR1045 is rated for 860hp and has the exact same measurements as this summit unit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-260005/
Treadstone also guarantees losing less than 2 psi with a 1300 cfm flow rate but there isn’t much info like this for the summit cooler.
Derek
Planning for 700hp on a VS Racing 80mm and 6.0 combo and was looking for an 800+ hp rated intercooler.
Treadstone’s TR1045 is rated for 860hp and has the exact same measurements as this summit unit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-260005/
Treadstone also guarantees losing less than 2 psi with a 1300 cfm flow rate but there isn’t much info like this for the summit cooler.
Derek
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On appearances alone, the Treadstone looks the better unit. Mainly as the Summit just has those same tiny end tanks every Chinese unit uses.
Although ultimately the core itself is what matters, and neither show images or give any detail on that aspect.
Although ultimately the core itself is what matters, and neither show images or give any detail on that aspect.
I nabbed a Mishimoto R-line intercooler for $250 today. Same specs as TR1045. I’ve also had good a experience with mishi prior to this, I ran one of their radiators on an SR20 240sx I built with no fan and it never overheated even in the summer. Some will be skeptical but that’s what happened.
Ill do a build thread and update the R-lines efficiency in there.
Derek
Ill do a build thread and update the R-lines efficiency in there.
Derek
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Really, Summit should be stepping up. The size of their business etc, they should be able to offer quality product with good cores at keen prices. Maybe they are not basic Chinese stuff, but as they offer no information at all or images etc of the actual core....we can only assume they are cheap stuff.
those end tanks, that plate design? ****, the photo looks like stock ad copy from the ebay ads!
i mean I have taken that POS a2a to 1000 wheel, but I aint paying no 300 dollhairs for it!
i mean I have taken that POS a2a to 1000 wheel, but I aint paying no 300 dollhairs for it!
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If it is something better, it makes sense for them to advertise the fact and give that information to customers.
Fit the biggest intercooler you can, and spend money somewhere else. Heat exchanger technology is pretty damn simple, and the chinese figured out how to copy the good ones a long time ago. Brand names in this area mean about as much in function as they do with women's purses. Your dollars could equal more horsepower in almost any other area of a build.
i have the mishimoto unit on my nova so far it has been great. looks much better than the ebay/ on3 coolers ive seen. no track runs yet but the car has made 705 hp to the wheels on 14 psi boost. temp diddnt rise much but a 4 or 5 sec dyno pull is a short test. no issue with flow.
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Really, Summit should be stepping up. The size of their business etc, they should be able to offer quality product with good cores at keen prices. Maybe they are not basic Chinese stuff, but as they offer no information at all or images etc of the actual core....we can only assume they are cheap stuff.
Is it likely the same intercooler as the cheap stuff? Maybe.
You have to determine who is better to buy from. An ebay company that refuses your return, or Summit which will gladly take returns and answer questions.
Some of that extra cost is customer service.
Fit the biggest intercooler you can, and spend money somewhere else. Heat exchanger technology is pretty damn simple, and the chinese figured out how to copy the good ones a long time ago. Brand names in this area mean about as much in function as they do with women's purses. Your dollars could equal more horsepower in almost any other area of a build.
They're a vendor on here.... @Summitracing can you share details?
i have the mishimoto unit on my nova so far it has been great. looks much better than the ebay/ on3 coolers ive seen. no track runs yet but the car has made 705 hp to the wheels on 14 psi boost. temp diddnt rise much but a 4 or 5 sec dyno pull is a short test. no issue with flow.
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Thanks for the tag ddnspider. We haven't tested these. We would be happy to get pictures of the core if that is something the community needs.
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Fit the biggest intercooler you can, and spend money somewhere else. Heat exchanger technology is pretty damn simple, and the chinese figured out how to copy the good ones a long time ago. Brand names in this area mean about as much in function as they do with women's purses. Your dollars could equal more horsepower in almost any other area of a build.
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Who you would expect would communicate with the manufacturers of those products, to ensure they are suitable and of good quality to be sold from their stores.
They are still cheap affordable units, but it would still be nice to see some core details, in case there maybe is something to set them above what others are selling. On a low power, low airflow car, these will undoubtedly work very well, simply as they will be oversized for the application. But on bigger motors, needing more air, and maybe having high temps to deal with....of course quality matters.
I posted this before on the forum, and it's a good back to back test worth posting again.
RH went from what already appears to be a pretty good intercooler to something a little bigger, and there was quite a difference in performance. So for anyone to say any cheap crap IC will work as well as a good unit, they're just nuts..
It would be nice to see a comparison like this test, but also with the horizontal cores too, and with various brands.
Potential improvements of IAT are one thing, but airflow is another. For those chiming about temps, ideally they'd need to hold a load for maybe 15-20s to get an accurate temperature reading once stabilised, as most typical air temp sensors are pretty slow, even though many will claim "fast acting".
So those low readings in a lot of cases will simply be false as they simply havent caught up yet with the actual temperature.
They are still cheap affordable units, but it would still be nice to see some core details, in case there maybe is something to set them above what others are selling. On a low power, low airflow car, these will undoubtedly work very well, simply as they will be oversized for the application. But on bigger motors, needing more air, and maybe having high temps to deal with....of course quality matters.
I posted this before on the forum, and it's a good back to back test worth posting again.
RH went from what already appears to be a pretty good intercooler to something a little bigger, and there was quite a difference in performance. So for anyone to say any cheap crap IC will work as well as a good unit, they're just nuts..
It would be nice to see a comparison like this test, but also with the horizontal cores too, and with various brands.
Potential improvements of IAT are one thing, but airflow is another. For those chiming about temps, ideally they'd need to hold a load for maybe 15-20s to get an accurate temperature reading once stabilised, as most typical air temp sensors are pretty slow, even though many will claim "fast acting".
So those low readings in a lot of cases will simply be false as they simply havent caught up yet with the actual temperature.