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That most certainly could be but I'm just not sure how. It literally had no timing in it, lots of fuel, and very little knock retard would ever show up.
yah ron and I were bs'ing about it earlier when he came over. says your set up would make near full boost at 1800 rpm? i'm no blower guy but that don't sound right. stuck bypass maybe?
yah ron and I were bs'ing about it earlier when he came over. says your set up would make near full boost at 1800 rpm? i'm no blower guy but that don't sound right. stuck bypass maybe?
Ha! To be perfectly clear NONE of this falls on Ron.
I don't think it's stuck. It would show in the logs. The map sensor shows no boost to boost.
That being said when it's up and running again I will make sure the diaphragm is working correctly. I have tested it before as well with my vacuum sucker and it fully cycled from open to closed.
WOW! Well at least the carnage was a good show lol. I am definitely with you on getting a set of rec port heads they are so nice and to get rid of those adapters would be nice. Are motors really not cheap near you anymore? That is really a shame I hate hearing that. A gen 3 6.0 is probably $500 or less here (northeast) but a 5.3 or 4.8 can be had for $300 or less. I'm looking forward to the motor build! Keep it up!
Build it, Break it, Build it better.....
Average already pulled price for a 6.0 iron around here is 1700 to 2500 with a stupid amount of miles.
That being said there are a couple 6.0s at the local Pick N Pull but that is not the most enjoyable place to pluck and engine from especially if it's cold and muddy outside.
I'm F'n Speechless! (And nervous - very close to firing mine up) You are handling this WAY better than I would.
I keep thinking about when Princess Di was killed in a car crash - The headline read "Official Reaction - Shocked and Saddened". I certainly am THAT. You seem to have the right attitude though. Stay focused and... Build Back Better? -
(I can't believe I just said that. Please delete this post if I Offended anyone - LGB)
Ha! To be perfectly clear NONE of this falls on Ron.
I don't think it's stuck. It would show in the logs. The map sensor shows no boost to boost.
That being said when it's up and running again I will make sure the diaphragm is working correctly. I have tested it before as well with my vacuum sucker and it fully cycled from open to closed.
I'll have to pull a log of my car when I had the blower but I'm pretty sure mine was all in under 2000 rpm it was ridiculous, it was literally a light switch from off to on. I had stock pulleys so it was only about 8lbs but still a good kick in the pants lol. What about a 5.3 near you? Whats the price tag on those near you?
are you 100% on staying with a stock pcm and 24x/1x? i am hearing reports of completely bonkers power numbers from otherwise stock bottom end L83's and adapters to fit LS intakes.
I'll have to pull a log of my car when I had the blower but I'm pretty sure mine was all in under 2000 rpm it was ridiculous, it was literally a light switch from off to on. I had stock pulleys so it was only about 8lbs but still a good kick in the pants lol. What about a 5.3 near you? Whats the price tag on those near you?
Originally Posted by truckdoug
are you 100% on staying with a stock pcm and 24x/1x? i am hearing reports of completely bonkers power numbers from otherwise stock bottom end L83's and adapters to fit LS intakes.
for now they are somewhat off the radar
I definitely want to go to square or rectangle port LS3 heads and keep this blower without running adapters. So that pretty much means 6.0 liter bore or bigger.
I am currently running a 411 PCM. I would like to stay 24x out of simplicity. No convertor boxes. Change reluctor wheels if needed. It would also be nice to stick to a generation where all my accessories just bolt right on? Knock sensors stay functional and so on.
Also as swapstang mentioned on the boost. I am pretty sure it is very normal for these PD blowers to pour on the boost nearly instantly. That is what they are known for. Doesn't matter if it's a Eaton, whipple, TVS, LSA, Kong Ect.......
Of course nothing is set in stone yet but I am leaning towards Iron 6.0 stock crank. Gen 4 rods, and forged dished pistons with compression around 9.5 to maybe 10:1.
The blower is full of oil. Like a half quart. It's full of metal and locked up. The intercooler brick looks like it got shot with a 12 gauge.
The cam is smoked and the lifters most certainly are as well.
Heads will come off today. It's the only hope I have left of salvaging anything left of this engine.
This is going to be a long road to recovery.
Oh man that sucks hopefully those rotors are ok. The first blower I bought looked very similar and was also locked up, long story short I took the entire thing apart, put new bearings in, and turned out one of the rotor lobes was bent ever so slightly. Needless to say I never ran that blower and bought another one considering $1650 for a rebuild, $1400 (at the time) for a used one or $1900 for a brand new one so it was easy math. I've got my fingers crossed for you.
So what exactly are we talking here? A few pistons actually came apart and sent shrapnel up through the valves and into the blower while the rods were punching holes through the block? Absolute carnage I'm patiently waiting for the autopsy photos...
Well we got the heads off today. I can't say this for certain but it looks to me like the ring lands were in tact. The #2 piston is busted through the top but that was definitely secondary as far as the small portion of ring land is concerned.
Could the rods really have just let go?
Heads are going to be salvageable but there is a couple of bent valves so if I sell them they need some minor repairs.
Thanks for sharing all this with us. You're a better man than I. The amount of damage is incredible! All the little pieces in the blower is Crazy! If you had to list 3 or 4 reasons why you 'think' this happened where would Detonation sit on that list?
I can't imagine the sound that made when it happened!
Thanks for sharing all this with us. You're a better man than I. The amount of damage is incredible! All the little pieces in the blower is Crazy! If you had to list 3 or 4 reasons why you 'think' this happened where would Detonation sit on that list?
I can't imagine the sound that made when it happened!
Based on what we've seen after the teardown and looking at the other 6 piston tops and all 8 plugs. I'd say it's not even on the list really.
We constantly monitor for knock retard so it's definitely not like we were just throwing caution to the wind.
I'm pretty sure I hurt this motor when playing around testing wheel hop cures. Of course we'll never know for sure.
05-17-2022, 06:52 PM
But a new build sounds like just the thing to start having fun with!
