What Injectors?
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What Injectors? Hello More Experienced People Than Me...
I have a 5.7 build using the Terminator X and a Precision LS 7675 Turbo with the Holley Sniper EFI intake made for EV1 injectors. Turbo is capable of 1100 HP as advertised. Bottom end is all forged using PRC heads.
These are the injectors I was thinking about using: DeatschWerks Fuel Injectors 16MX2012008
Questions
1) Are these enough for what I'm doing? I think they are but I've never built a fuel injected LS turbo car. I'm a big block Ford with a carburetor guy but I'm digging the LS stuff. Easy power... Low buck.
2) Is there a better & cheaper alternative?
3) Other advice?
Thanks in advance for your help!
I have a 5.7 build using the Terminator X and a Precision LS 7675 Turbo with the Holley Sniper EFI intake made for EV1 injectors. Turbo is capable of 1100 HP as advertised. Bottom end is all forged using PRC heads.
These are the injectors I was thinking about using: DeatschWerks Fuel Injectors 16MX2012008
Questions
1) Are these enough for what I'm doing? I think they are but I've never built a fuel injected LS turbo car. I'm a big block Ford with a carburetor guy but I'm digging the LS stuff. Easy power... Low buck.
2) Is there a better & cheaper alternative?
3) Other advice?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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I have a: MagnaFuel ProTuner 750 Series In-Line Fuel Pump
Last edited by MrScharfenberger1967; Oct 15, 2020 at 09:10 AM.
I run ID 1300s (on Flex/E85), had Deka 80s (Gas), ID1000s (Flex up to E60) before that. You ought to be in business with that set up. Deatschwerks have a good reputation however I haven't run them. My Dekas were good to go on gas btw at 750-800 on gasoline (twin 340s & 525s on Flex). I ran ID 1000s at the same power level. All of them were tuned well and drove great.
Outside of billet atomizers... stay away from aftermarket injectors.
get deka’s, Denso, Bosch, etc.
80s or 120s will be enough. 60s will get there at 4 bar of fuel pressure but you’ll be totally out of injector at 700whp
get deka’s, Denso, Bosch, etc.
80s or 120s will be enough. 60s will get there at 4 bar of fuel pressure but you’ll be totally out of injector at 700whp
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I run ID 1300s (on Flex/E85), had Deka 80s (Gas), ID1000s (Flex up to E60) before that. You ought to be in business with that set up. Deatschwerks have a good reputation however I haven't run them. My Dekas were good to go on gas btw at 750-800 on gasoline (twin 340s & 525s on Flex). I ran ID 1000s at the same power level. All of them were tuned well and drove great.
Do any of you have links to articles that discuss fuel pressure v.s. injector flow? I don't have all of that straight in my head yet. I know higher pressure will result in more fuel going in the cylinder. I just don't know how you figure out what is right for your injector unless the injector info tells you how much fuel pressure to give them or perhaps provide a flow v.s. pressure chart. Thanks again. Very helpful info!
I'm a fan of the buy big and buy once when it comes to injectors. You can get Bosch 210's for $544. You don't need anywhere near that much injector, but they likely cost less than the ID1300, so why not?
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
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I'm a fan of the buy big and buy once when it comes to injectors. You can get Bosch 210's for $544. You don't need anywhere near that much injector, but they likely cost less than the ID1300, so why not?
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
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I'm a fan of the buy big and buy once when it comes to injectors. You can get Bosch 210's for $544. You don't need anywhere near that much injector, but they likely cost less than the ID1300, so why not?
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
they do also make little adaptor plugs as well.
the other option is snake eaters. China injector. Kinda like the cheap smart fire injectors, but a little better reputation.
but like stated.. 80s will go a pretty long ways on 4 bar of base fuel pressure.
Heck I ran 21psi with 60s on 110 this year.
if you buy Bosch 210s... make sure you get authentic Bosch 210s.. and not China clones. Lot of that going around
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I'm a fan of the buy big and buy once when it comes to injectors. You can get Bosch 210's for $544. You don't need anywhere near that much injector, but they likely cost less than the ID1300, so why not?
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical
80's will be too small for decent power down the road on e85 if you go that route. My 80's were done on 12lbs with a mild 5.3. Made 560/600 at that level.(43 base, and voltage was dropping) Now I'm at 70 base with good voltage and pumps. I can squeak out 19lbs and inj. DC is maxed. IF you never plan on E85. Deka 80's are great IMO.
https://turbo4less.com/product/bosch...l-application/
inj press vs flow calc
https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/technical