very, very nice turbo setup on camaro
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very, very nice turbo setup on camaro Check out jlturbo.com and click on eye candy for some video clips and pictures of this very cool unique looking turbo setup. The one video clip with the Lt1 sounds so sweet. 
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Originally Posted by felton316
Can you say 'turbo lag'? Plus, having the air filter behind the tire
I'm guessing on a street driven vehicle, that the filter will need a cleaning every 3.4 hours, maybe less if its raining.
Ive talked to a dealer about this kit and asked about lag too. They said that there would be some but not much at all. Im thinking of getting the kit and seeing how it works.
I think the best thing about the kit is the price and great numbers they are picking up for the money. I however don't like the turbo location because of road debris, etc., they claim lag isn't a problem, so that doesn't concern me, but i'm sure with all things being equal, a front mounted turbo would outperform a rear mounted turbo in a race.
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this really confuses me , i thought the turbo needed to be right at the engine to work properly. what are the possible benefits of the location at rear and the piping length? not trying to be stupid or sarcastic, just never seen or heard of a setup like this, it's got me curious to know more.
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The real problem with that setup is the distance the turbo hot section is from the maniflods. The farther down a pipe the exhaust travels, the slower the exhaust velocity becomes and the hot exhaust gasses loose energy. There is a mathamatical formula, but I don't have it.
Certainly, a turbo will spool much faster the closer to the exhaust manifold it is mounted. (and it will produce more boost with a given amount of exhaust flow) vs a system that is mounted farther down the pipe.
That system in the picture will work .... But, it is [not] efficient at all
Certainly, a turbo will spool much faster the closer to the exhaust manifold it is mounted. (and it will produce more boost with a given amount of exhaust flow) vs a system that is mounted farther down the pipe.
That system in the picture will work .... But, it is [not] efficient at all
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Yes you get better performance and less lag with the turbo closest to the engine. So with this setup you run a smaller turbine than you normally would since you want keep the exhaust velocity higher.
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Just finished getting mine dyno'ed check sig for numbers at 5psi...i reach full boost at around 3000-3300. The thing flies...its a nice kit very well made. If ya have any question send me a PM
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It does have a couple benefits. Since you don't mount it on a manifold, you don't really have to screw around in that Godawful engine compartment we have. Plus this kit is sneaky as ****. Uhh that pipe is just my cold air induction 
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Would a turbo car with 460rwhp beat an all-motor car with 400rwhp? Especially with turbo lag. I don't think so. You could beat that turbo car with a G5X3, intake, headers and a good tune with a 6800 rpm redline.
Originally Posted by SStolen
Would a turbo car with 460rwhp beat an all-motor car with 400rwhp? Especially with turbo lag. I don't think so. You could beat that turbo car with a G5X3, intake, headers and a good tune with a 6800 rpm redline.
The turbo in its boost range would absolutely destroy a 400 RWHP N/A car.
For example, if the turbo car launched off of a two step (so that the turbo car would launch off of boost thus eliminating lag) the 400 RWHP N/A car would have zero chance. Turbo cars make so much more TQ than N/A cars and they make so much of it in the lower RPM range where the N/A car can't compete (in this scenario). So, assuming both cars launched the same, equivalent 60's and shifting, turbo car would hand this 400 RWHP N/A car its ***, all day.
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