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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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So I have not ordered wastegates yet, but I have called a few places and got different stories about which wastgates I should get

right now its between the HKS "Race" wastegate, approx $900 each, or the TiAL 46MM wastegate, about $400 each.

Can anyone tell me cons of the TiAL wastegate? Or give me a good reason to spend a extra $1000 on wastegates and go with HKS RACE gates?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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The HKS is a nice unit but overpriced. The Tial is a nice unit as well, but race fuel is not allowed with it unless you get the upgraded valve. For the money the best unit by far is a Turbosmart progate 48mm. Flows as much as a HKS race wastegate, costs around the same as a Tial version, and comes already with a 253MA valve which will handle race fuel and anything else you can throw at it.

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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The HKS is a nice unit but overpriced. The Tial is a nice unit as well, but race fuel is not allowed with it unless you get the upgraded valve. For the money the best unit by far is a Turbosmart progate 48mm. Flows as much as a HKS race wastegate, costs around the same as a Tial version, and comes already with a 253MA valve which will handle race fuel and anything else you can throw at it.

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So i take it by what your saying Jose is that i cant use a Tial wastegate and C-16????? If not then i will be getting one thst i can use with reg. pump 93 octane and C-16......
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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not to hijack a thread but can you run race fuel with a hks standard wg?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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I was going to say use the prosmart also, check out Jose's site, he has them at a good price, havent found a cheaper place yet
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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We run 44mm tial gates on my wife's car, put race gas through them all the time. They're reasonably priced at around 700 for the pair, and hold boost very well. A pair of HKS GT gates is hugely overkill. Pro 5.0 cars making 2000+ horsepower run a single HKS GT gate.
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The Tial's you can run race fuel through, but you need to check them regularly. I have had a few customers that have had them stick. Also the HKS units as well. The test supra that we used for testing turbos went down with a rod through the block thanks to a stuck HKS wastegate....ouch. We sell all the units and brands, so I'm not being biased, but a stuck wastegate can be an expensive mistake.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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The Tials already come with the upgraded Inconel valve in the 44s/46 mil valves. DSM guys run c16 all the time with no complaints.
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ok. does anyone care to explain why you can't run race gas with some gates?

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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The Tial 35mm wastegate comes with a valve that is not meant for leaded gas and thus gets corroded and swells ( sticks closed/open). Tial has an option on the 35mm so you can get a hard chromed stem (comes std. on the 40[discontinued], 44 & 46mm) that is good for the leaded stuff.

I am assuming the same is true for the HKS stuff.
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thanks for the info...I learn something new everyday.
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