Turbo ls1 vs turbo civic
05-02-2005, 09:11 PM
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send me in excel your.......
1. injector flow rate table and what size injectors you are running.
2. timing table
3. power enrichment table.
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1. injector flow rate table and what size injectors you are running.
2. timing table
3. power enrichment table.
PM me for email addy
05-02-2005, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkblueTA
No, I'm not gettying mad, don't take the post that way. I'm trying to figure out why your power went into the tank and fast. who did the install for you? tuning? Yes, make sure you have the TR6s gapped at .035".
See, reason being is I had a P1SC on the car pushing 7# of boost. sb427f-car can attest to this. There was a guy in DE/MD area that had a car simualr to the one you raced and I walked all over his *** 3 differnt times...and the most I was pushing was 470-480rwhp. He had a Built GSR engine, T3/T4 turbo pushing 13# of boost and ran 11.75@118 on slicks at the track. That's why I'm confused by your power output and video...get the power output issue resolved and get a re-match
Gotboost...before you go shootin' your mouth off,
I know there are fast imports out there....just making sure there aren't very many on the street that can hang with me. hence the sig. 
See, reason being is I had a P1SC on the car pushing 7# of boost. sb427f-car can attest to this. There was a guy in DE/MD area that had a car simualr to the one you raced and I walked all over his *** 3 differnt times...and the most I was pushing was 470-480rwhp. He had a Built GSR engine, T3/T4 turbo pushing 13# of boost and ran 11.75@118 on slicks at the track. That's why I'm confused by your power output and video...get the power output issue resolved and get a re-match
Gotboost...before you go shootin' your mouth off,
I know there are fast imports out there....just making sure there aren't very many on the street that can hang with me. hence the sig. Yeah. It's all in the tune and it definately sounds like you have some kind of fuel or timing issue. As someone stated earlier...there is precident here to make big power on the stock cam. Stock springs do an excellent job in controling the valves up to about 6500, much more than that and you will start to run into valve float.
Darkblue...that turbo hatch was pretty quick and props to him. Both races were very close but you did pull him some (especially from the roll and I woulda hated to see it from a dig
). Gotta love the fact that the kid wanted to say he pulled on you when we're running around a turn and you just happen to be on the outside line. 
Stupid kids 
It was great to see a little shoe box fly by ya when you were on the binders though 
Got sparks anyone? They maybe quick in a straight line, but I'd hate to wanna turn left and right and stop with them. The only thing that the hatches have for them is low weight and a low CoG. Other than that they have a fair amount of roll.
05-02-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
Yeah. It's all in the tune and it definately sounds like you have some kind of fuel or timing issue. As someone stated earlier...there is precident here to make big power on the stock cam. Stock springs do an excellent job in controling the valves up to about 6500, much more than that and you will start to run into valve float.
Darkblue...that turbo hatch was pretty quick and props to him. Both races were very close but you did pull him some (especially from the roll and I woulda hated to see it from a dig). Gotta love the fact that the kid wanted to say he pulled on you when we're running around a turn and you just happen to be on the outside line. Stupid kids It was great to see a little shoe box fly by ya when you were on the binders though Got sparks anyone? They maybe quick in a straight line, but I'd hate to wanna turn left and right and stop with them. The only thing that the hatches have for them is low weight and a low CoG. Other than that they have a fair amount of roll.
Darkblue...that turbo hatch was pretty quick and props to him. Both races were very close but you did pull him some (especially from the roll and I woulda hated to see it from a dig
). Gotta love the fact that the kid wanted to say he pulled on you when we're running around a turn and you just happen to be on the outside line. Stupid kids It was great to see a little shoe box fly by ya when you were on the binders though Got sparks anyone? They maybe quick in a straight line, but I'd hate to wanna turn left and right and stop with them. The only thing that the hatches have for them is low weight and a low CoG. Other than that they have a fair amount of roll. What..you don't like my brakeing system? 100~>30 in no time while he goes blitzin' by us like we were tied to a tree? he was 2 cars back when I nailed the brakes(brake check anyone?) and went by us like he was rocket boosted with sparks coming out of his brakes.
crazy. Fun race though and yes, the kid was 
and has a fast little car. I give him proops for that!
05-02-2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkblueTA
hehehe...you should have seen the 3rd race...with everyone from DSR there. It was just ugly...for him
What..you don't like my brakeing system? 100~>30 in no time while he goes blitzin' by us like we were tied to a tree? he was 2 cars back when I nailed the brakes(brake check anyone?) and went by us like he was rocket boosted with sparks coming out of his brakes. crazy. Fun race though and yes, the kid was and has a fast little car. I give him proops for that!
What..you don't like my brakeing system? 100~>30 in no time while he goes blitzin' by us like we were tied to a tree? he was 2 cars back when I nailed the brakes(brake check anyone?) and went by us like he was rocket boosted with sparks coming out of his brakes.
crazy. Fun race though and yes, the kid was and has a fast little car. I give him proops for that!Yeah, I thought for sure he had bottom something out until we both realised that he was heating the rotors up THAT bad.
05-02-2005, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkblueTA
He had a Built GSR engine, T3/T4 turbo pushing 13# of boost and ran 11.75@118 on slicks at the track.
05-03-2005, 05:53 AM
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do you have any log files
id think those would be more important to tell whats going on.
i bet a big part would be your springs, start with that.
look into the tune, i think part of it could be there.
spend enough time with us and you wont have to worry about getting beat by some grocery getter.
id think those would be more important to tell whats going on.
i bet a big part would be your springs, start with that.
look into the tune, i think part of it could be there.
spend enough time with us and you wont have to worry about getting beat by some grocery getter.
05-03-2005, 09:56 AM
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Just to clue you guys in on something you should probably know, The reason his springs Could be giving up here is the fact that he has stockers in there that are already very low on pressure to control the valvetrain and then if you factor in the boost at say around 9psi you are in essence REMOVING 28.27#'s of spring pressure from the already weak springs due to the boost pushing on the valve! We have seen this many times on heavily boosted racing engines, something to think about...
The formula goes like this:
valve dia. X valve dia. X .7854(to compensate for roundness of valve) X PSI of BOOST = effective spring pressure lost.
This will obviously be even more important on a heavily boosted engine!
Enjoy!
-Bryan
The formula goes like this:
valve dia. X valve dia. X .7854(to compensate for roundness of valve) X PSI of BOOST = effective spring pressure lost.
This will obviously be even more important on a heavily boosted engine!
Enjoy!
-Bryan
05-03-2005, 06:19 PM
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yeah, got it today, looked it over and PM'd him back. hope I didn't ramble to much in it. 
I'm surprised you're only running 16* of timing. BTW, what else is done to your car?
I'm surprised you're only running 16* of timing. BTW, what else is done to your car?
05-03-2005, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro_Zach
i would not run stock anything vs a car that has stock nothing. 
well obviously if it breaks, it wasn't high performance enough.
I have so far, but I don't beat on my car that much and it usually gets an easy drive now and then with a trip from here to there and back again on the highway....so I've been either lucky or good so far.
05-03-2005, 07:47 PM
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just have bolt ons, moser 12 bolt with 373s, dennys driveshaft, then suspension and non engine related stuff. its a 2001 if ur wondering about rod bolts and intake etc
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