Copying the Incon TT kit
Originally Posted by XJGPN
There would definitely be tons of interest for that as long as they used a standard T3 or T4 flange so that we can use readily available turbos.
Peter
Do you really think that people will pay $10,000 for a twin turbo kit, incon style from a reputable source?
An incon kit has over $1000 in silicone hoses, expensive cast manifolds, to do it right, you need a $400+ scavenge pump, not to mention the twin ball bearing turbos' close to a 1000 a pop.
This kit will cost more than many of these cars are worth
Ryan
An incon kit has over $1000 in silicone hoses, expensive cast manifolds, to do it right, you need a $400+ scavenge pump, not to mention the twin ball bearing turbos' close to a 1000 a pop.
This kit will cost more than many of these cars are worth
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Originally Posted by slow
Do you really think that people will pay $10,000 for a twin turbo kit, incon style from a reputable source?
An incon kit has over $1000 in silicone hoses, expensive cast manifolds, to do it right, you need a $400+ scavenge pump, not to mention the twin ball bearing turbos' close to a 1000 a pop.
This kit will cost more than many of these cars are worth
Ryan
An incon kit has over $1000 in silicone hoses, expensive cast manifolds, to do it right, you need a $400+ scavenge pump, not to mention the twin ball bearing turbos' close to a 1000 a pop.
This kit will cost more than many of these cars are worth
Ryan
Kits are easily worth 2 sometimes 3 times that of the car.
Fox mustangs are also a great platform for drag racing, coming in at under 3000#'s for the coupes with a 8.8 rearend from the factory.
Most incon kits sell for under 3K on ebay for fox TT kits when they pop up every few months.
Ryan
Most incon kits sell for under 3K on ebay for fox TT kits when they pop up every few months.
Ryan
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Originally Posted by LSONE
I would definitely be cautious about sending someone my money beforehand, but sending my money to a company that employs a man that has basically stolen tons of money from our community, and then flew to another country to escape his problems is definitely out of the question. I might be interested in cast manifolds somewhere down the road though, as long as there were readily available turbos.
Somethings are prepay. Try to get a one of a kind custom comp cam without ponying up the cash first...
Originally Posted by LSONE
I would definitely be cautious about sending someone my money beforehand, but sending my money to a company that employs a man that has basically stolen tons of money from our community, and then flew to another country to escape his problems is definitely out of the question.
Originally Posted by slow
Fox mustangs are also a great platform for drag racing, coming in at under 3000#'s for the coupes with a 8.8 rearend from the factory.
Most incon kits sell for under 3K on ebay for fox TT kits when they pop up every few months.
Ryan
Most incon kits sell for under 3K on ebay for fox TT kits when they pop up every few months.
Ryan
I sold my F-body kit about 9 months ago (larger CHRAs) for $6500.
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How much do you think some really HQ tubular manifolds would be worth...
I'm talking 321 SS
Double slip collectors T3.
HQ turbo to block mount bracket...
I mean really nice and TIG welded from the best components.
I'm talking 321 SS
Double slip collectors T3.
HQ turbo to block mount bracket...
I mean really nice and TIG welded from the best components.
Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
How much do you think some really HQ tubular manifolds would be worth...
I'm talking 321 SS
Double slip collectors T3.
HQ turbo to block mount bracket...
I mean really nice and TIG welded from the best components.
I'm talking 321 SS
Double slip collectors T3.
HQ turbo to block mount bracket...
I mean really nice and TIG welded from the best components.
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
About $250 per manifold in production volumes.
Peter
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Way too cheap.. I'll have $250 per manifold in just the collectors and even straight tubing will cost $16 a foot...
GOOD longtube production headers go for $800 a set...
I am going to make a boiler plate version from mild mandrels to get the bends on each primary right and have a stainless tubing shop bend one piece primaries.
The only welds on the primaries will be at the head flange and the wire tabs for the collectors springs..
As nice as they will be and the work that goes into them means I better MAKE $250 a side..
Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
Way too cheap.. I'll have $250 per manifold in just the collectors and even straight tubing will cost $16 a foot...
GOOD longtube production headers go for $800 a set...
I am going to make a boiler plate version from mild mandrels to get the bends on each primary right and have a stainless tubing shop bend one piece primaries.
The only welds on the primaries will be at the head flange and the wire tabs for the collectors springs..
As nice as they will be and the work that goes into them means I better MAKE $250 a side..
GOOD longtube production headers go for $800 a set...
I am going to make a boiler plate version from mild mandrels to get the bends on each primary right and have a stainless tubing shop bend one piece primaries.
The only welds on the primaries will be at the head flange and the wire tabs for the collectors springs..
As nice as they will be and the work that goes into them means I better MAKE $250 a side..
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Well the car I'd be mocking them up on would be getting a top mount with my headers..
The rear mount was just another idea of something to do since I'll have a car to proto stuff on..
So really high flowing, tough and good looking top mount headers would be a good product?
The rear mount was just another idea of something to do since I'll have a car to proto stuff on..
So really high flowing, tough and good looking top mount headers would be a good product?
Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
I did'nt know about that..
Somethings are prepay. Try to get a one of a kind custom comp cam without ponying up the cash first...
Somethings are prepay. Try to get a one of a kind custom comp cam without ponying up the cash first...
talk about apples to oranges!You're really trying to make a comparison between a relatively small amount of money, up-front deposit on a well established American company verses sending several thousand dollars overseas to a company of unknown financial stability, employing a man who has screwed his fair share of people walking in the very same f-body circles as you or I? hardly comparable, IMO. If come cams started making cast turbo manifolds i wouldn't think twice about sending my money to them.
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Originally Posted by LSONE
talk about apples to oranges!You're really trying to make a comparison between a relatively small amount of money, up-front deposit on a well established American company verses sending several thousand dollars overseas to a company of unknown financial stability, employing a man who has screwed his fair share of people walking in the very same f-body circles as you or I? hardly comparable, IMO. If come (SIC> comp) cams started making cast turbo manifolds i wouldn't think twice about sending my money to them.
Also I dont think just a pair of manifolds will amount to several thousand dollars...
Comp is'nt the only company. Try buying anything mail order and say I will pay you after it has been delivered..
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APS has quite a following on the import scene...
I personally plan to do one install using some techniques used on aircraft...
This is a local company that is actually doing colectors for laser shop right now.
I am going to be getting my components from there...
Aircraft exhaust however engineer things the same for a LS1 f-body and it will be light, indestructable and flow very well..
Notice the double slip collector and ball joints on the primaries?
I personally plan to do one install using some techniques used on aircraft...
This is a local company that is actually doing colectors for laser shop right now.
I am going to be getting my components from there...
Aircraft exhaust however engineer things the same for a LS1 f-body and it will be light, indestructable and flow very well..
Notice the double slip collector and ball joints on the primaries?
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The only way anyone is going to make money is if Peter/APS can get the cast molds cheap and sell them as is and alone. I can see people paying $1300-1500 for cast manifolds, but a whole kit would get unruley real quick. In terms of price and development.