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Old 10-02-2017, 05:36 PM
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I have a 98 z28 with a 6.0L LQ9 swap. It has a stock fuel rail, lines, and regulator with 36lb injectors currently. A little while ago it started hesitating noticeably at WOT over like 4kRPM so I tested fuel pressure and found to have 60psi at idle as it should be but then as soon as it's under load particularly 3rd gear+ at 3k+ fuel pressure rapidly drops to 20 psi at WOT. So I changed the fuel pump to a very large walbro 450lph rewired the car with 8ga to power it, and pressure is still dropping exactly the same so I know it is not a pump related issue. The car also gradually loses fuel pressure as soon as you shut it off and after about 5-10 minutes it will have 0psi at the rail. Thinking maybe a regulator issue? Could it be leaking the pressure back through the return line? And if it is a regulator issue is the a particular aftermarket one that I should buy the handle the extra load?

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Stock functioning regulator should handle that no problem....

Though we argued some there is good info here about how the stock system functions:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/fueling-i...el-bucket.html
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Though we argued some there is good info here about how the stock system functions:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/fueling-i...el-bucket.html

my pump does not have a bucket at all. Looks like previous owner deleted it.... 🤔🤔🤔
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Although I doubt that would be causing any problems at this point in time because the gas tank has been completely full for all pressure tests....
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Gotcha. I remember a buddy deleted his bucket and had no drain back issues. He did keep killing pumps until he finally replaced the bucket. His tank was likely never full though.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Gotcha. I remember a buddy deleted his bucket and had no drain back issues. He did keep killing pumps until he finally replaced the bucket. His tank was likely never full though.
I have just ordered a new Delphi FPR so will install it Saturday and let y'all know if it (hopefully) changes anything.
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Fuel filter old?
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Originally Posted by Crf450r420
Fuel filter old?
The fuel filter has not been replaced yet, not sure exactly how old it is, however that wouldn't explain why it loses pressure when you shut the car off. Either way I'll be changing the fuel filter with the FPR. Will update Saturday or Sunday with results.
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Exact same issue I'm having. Will be very curious to know if the new fpr/filter fixes your issue.
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This definitely sounds like a regulator issue to me, but I will be interested to know what you find.
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Can someone please explain this? The fuel pressure regulator is mounted on the return line in the tank, the regulator is not hooked up to any vacuum whatsoever im confused how it is supposed to operate without a vacuum source?
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98s dont have buckets.



Its either reg, reg housing, line to reg, or line from pump.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
98s dont have buckets.



Its either reg, reg housing, line to reg, or line from pump.
Okay that assembly looks like mine but why doesn't the regulator have a Vacuum line going to it? Is it supposed to be that way??
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The fuel pressure regulator in the tank has no vacuum line going to it. It would be nearly impossible to do that. All it does use is fuel tank pressure kind of but it doesnt actively adjust it just tries to keep a constant rate then uses the inj offset in the computer to "compensate"
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
The fuel pressure regulator in the tank has no vacuum line going to it. It would be nearly impossible to do that. All it does use is fuel tank pressure kind of but it doesnt actively adjust it just tries to keep a constant rate then uses the inj offset in the computer to "compensate"


Very interesting. Makes like no sense how that works to me still but if it's not supposed to have a vacuum line we shall proceed to install the new regulator and will let everyone know how it goes
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UPDATE: installed a new regulator and a new fuel filter (both were beyond nasty) and now it holds steady pressure at WOT up to 150 an least that's as far as I tested today lol. When the car is shut off it very slowly loses pressure still, its a lot better now though. So not sure what's going on with that but a vast majority of the problem is fixed now
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My new filter/reg is coming tomorrow. Looks like a lot of rain in my area, so hopefully I can post up this weekend if I had the same results.
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Originally Posted by 89ROC-Z
My new filter/reg is coming tomorrow. Looks like a lot of rain in my area, so hopefully I can post up this weekend if I had the same results.
interested to hear what happens. I'm so happy to have high rpms back!
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Originally Posted by Familyguy9877
Can someone please explain this? The fuel pressure regulator is mounted on the return line in the tank, the regulator is not hooked up to any vacuum whatsoever im confused how it is supposed to operate without a vacuum source?
Its a set pressure, the only reason you'd need a vacuum source is if you want to decrease the pressure to compensate for manifold vacuum. You dont have to because there is a table in the computer where it uses the MAP reading and tells the computer to compensate for vacuum (which sucks fuel through the injector) and makes the injector spray less. You would also have one on boosted cars to go up in pressure to compensate for manifold positive pressure. Because the car isnt boosted stock, and the table is there to compensate for vacuum, no reference line needed.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Its a set pressure, the only reason you'd need a vacuum source is if you want to decrease the pressure to compensate for manifold vacuum. You dont have to because there is a table in the computer where it uses the MAP reading and tells the computer to compensate for vacuum (which sucks fuel through the injector) and makes the injector spray less. You would also have one on boosted cars to go up in pressure to compensate for manifold positive pressure. Because the car isnt boosted stock, and the table is there to compensate for vacuum, no reference line needed.
So I have plans of boosting the car next year, does that mean I need to run a vacuum to the trunk area??


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