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Old 11-04-2007, 03:44 AM
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Im a little confused. Can you get the aluminum 3rd member with a locker?
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Originally Posted by Justa Z
This is a very nice rear setup, 42lbs of savings sounds great and it looks badass, im gona look into pickin up this setup when i got a few $ extra
You will be pleasantly surprised, this is a very high quality unit that also gives ample clearance for the rear and the torque arm was designed to stay away from the body's sheetmetal. Bob
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I see alot of "xx pounds less than whatever and xx pounds less than another" just put actual numbers out there or say actual weight is not yet known. My moser 9 weighs a ton so this new 9 weighs 1953 pounds right.
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Originally Posted by Torkman15
I see alot of "xx pounds less than whatever and xx pounds less than another" just put actual numbers out there or say actual weight is not yet known. My moser 9 weighs a ton so this new 9 weighs 1953 pounds right.
The weight difference is in the very first post.

The weight difference between the standard Moser 9 inch and the M9 is 42 lbs.

Thanks! Bob
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
The weight difference is in the very first post.

The weight difference between the standard Moser 9 inch and the M9 is 42 lbs.

Thanks! Bob
Your missing my point. "Weight difference" means nothing if you dont have an actual number to be more or less than. My Moser 9 weighed 185 without calipers and without an arm bolted to the castiron tq arm bracket with 5/8 2in studs and full of gear lube.

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Bob,

Can you only get a spool with the M9?

Thanks,
Erik
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Originally Posted by ErikElvis
Bob,

Can you only get a spool with the M9?

Thanks,
Erik
If you get 35 spline axles you can get a Detriot locker for it. No dif is available for a 9inch with 33 spline axles. It dosent look like 33 spline is even offered but could be an option since you can order just about any combo of axles and housing ends from Moser.
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I'd like to see some standard weights thrown out there as well.

10 bolt without brakes =
12 bolt without brakes =
9 inch without brakes =
M9 without brakes =
S60 without brakes =

That'll give everyone a good idea of what were working with here. Everyone is always asking for this information too so if someone figures it out it can be stickied.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
I'd like to see some standard weights thrown out there as well.

10 bolt without brakes =
12 bolt without brakes =
9 inch without brakes =
M9 without brakes =
S60 without brakes =

That'll give everyone a good idea of what were working with here. Everyone is always asking for this information too so if someone figures it out it can be stickied.
Only problem is you really need to compare with what width, what axles (spline, gundrilled, etc.), on and on. Hard to do a direct comparison with so many different variables and options. Whoever orders one, weigh it dry and tell us what width, what guts, etc. Take care. Dave
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Originally Posted by Torkman15
Your missing my point. "Weight difference" means nothing if you dont have an actual number to be more or less than. My Moser 9 weighed 185 without calipers and without an arm bolted to the castiron tq arm bracket with 5/8 2in studs and full of gear lube.

Thanks Tom
I don't have the exact weights, but the 42lb difference is with the torque arm mount included in the weight of the 9 inch. Bob
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Originally Posted by RUQWIKR
Only problem is you really need to compare with what width, what axles (spline, gundrilled, etc.), on and on. Hard to do a direct comparison with so many different variables and options. Whoever orders one, weigh it dry and tell us what width, what guts, etc. Take care. Dave
That is a great idea. Bob
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Originally Posted by ErikElvis
Bob,

Can you only get a spool with the M9?

Thanks,
Erik
No, the M9 can be used with any of the center sections that a standard Moser 9 inch or any other manufacturers center sections fit. Thanks! Bob
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Adding extreme horsepower to your F-Body setup? Needing some strength for your torque arm so you don’t rip the rear end apart at launch? Now you have a choice, the new Moser M9 Torque Arm Assembly. Moser Engineering has developed the strongest torque arm assembly on the planet.

Made from 4130 chrome-moly material the new M9 Torque Arm Assembly is able to withstand what ever a high-horsepower racer can throw at it. Patterned after the same style setup used in today’s Pro Mod cars, the Moser M9 Torque Arm Assembly is not intended for the daily driver, but is manufactured with the 10 second cars and faster in mind.

The Torque Arm is constructed with 1.25” o.d. 4130 chrome-moly, all joints and connections, including the 4130 chrome-moly threaded tube adapters are TIG welded. The 1

The Moser M9 Torque Arm Assembly utilizes a unique sliding front mount that allows the torque arm to slide enabling the torque arm to move freely and not bind, which would impair the overall handling of the car. The front slider tube has a grease fitting which allows proper lubrication.

The rear torque arm itself mounts proprietarily to the M9 Housing via 3/16” thick mounting plates with two

The entire M9 F-Body Torque Arm Assembly utilizes existing mounting points, totally eliminating welding or additional fabrication.




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What does it weigh?
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Originally Posted by Torkman15
What does it weigh?
See post 110. Bob
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how far can you narrow these? Could i get a full 3" off each side?
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Bob, I have ordered a Moser 12 bolt, 3.73s, aluminum performance cover. Tru trac. 33 spline axles. ABS only.. I ordered this from you since may 2007

How much lighter is this rearend over the 12 bolt that I have?


Honestly, I wasnt very stoked at the amount of money I spent on my rearend and everything about it, I dislike, except that I can make launches on it with slicks.

positive:
I do 5500rpm launches on slicks in a bolton only car

negatives:

Torque arm design fails, my bolts always come loose, even with red loctite on the bolts.
this causes even more clunking during shifting, wheelhop when agressive braking.

gear whine at 40 - 45mph.

my handling is affected in more than one way... Unsprung weight, which is what I didnt want to add, in the first place before I even purchased the rearend. whats worse is the location certain suspension components sit, which threw off my handling even more. such as shocks and angle the shocks sit in. Lower control arms, and even torque arm(which I should check the pinion angle) and that one I accept as my fault for ride quality.

in addition to this I think my rear sits higher than it did before when I had my 10 bolt and the same aftermarket suspension..

lastly, my rear swaybar bracket is broken and I have to now modify a 3" exhuast clamp to seat it again.(the bracket that sits on the axle tubes of the rearend)

now what I wanna know is how light is the M9 rearend vs the 12 bolt, in order to free up unsprung weight and is it engineered better for my torque arm to sit in and will my suspension sit in its original proper place vs the 12 bolt..

etc..

No I dont wanna discourage anyone from Bob, but I am just not satisfied from my 12 bolt for what my applications are.. again I am a 6 speed and road race also, and this combo wasnt the best for me. but since I also drag race, I wanted a lighter rearend than a 9" but still enough strength to make launches on slicks when I drag race...

In addition, I'd like to add that Bob had excellent customer service and he gave me a free pinion seal, when from the factory the moser one was leaking, and that was probably my fault because I may have over filled the housing when I first go the rearend. so thank you much for that..
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wait is this just a torque arm , or is this m9 a housing as well. Im confused.
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Originally Posted by coop5885
how far can you narrow these? Could i get a full 3" off each side?
I'm also wondering this as I'd like to narrow 5-5.5 / side.

Originally Posted by LSGunZ28
wait is this just a torque arm , or is this m9 a housing as well. Im confused.
Both
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Originally Posted by coop5885
how far can you narrow these? Could i get a full 3" off each side?
Yes you can get three inches off of each side. We are going to do this when we mini tub my car for my 315 M/T drag radials. Bob


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