View Poll Results: Which options would you like to see in the new Camaro?
z28-300hp, SS 6.0 400 hp, ZL1 7.0 500 hp
291
27.95%
z28 6.0 400hp, SS 7.0 500 hp
595
57.16%
Any of above but z28 being top runer
118
11.34%
Don't offer a 7.0 500 hp Camaro let the GT 500 stay up front.
37
3.55%
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Originally Posted by Shock Hawk
Then you have 2 choices:
1. Buy the V6
2. Buy it used
But don't spoil our fun
1. Buy the V6
2. Buy it used
But don't spoil our fun
Don't spoil your fun? I don't want to spoil your fun, I just want some fun of my own, at a price that I can afford! I kind of get this snobbish attitude from a few of the people on this board who act like it's a status symbol to have a V8 F-body....I don't like that at all!
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Chevy's Plans For The Return Of The Camaro
I do know for sure ONE thing . GM damn well better get their **** together on this one and not do a half-assed job like they did with the Goat. One of THE most important job-1 things to do is hire some sound engineers that know how to make a V8 sound bitchin, even thru the stock exhaust system. The sound is as if not more important than performance - GM are you listening ?
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
I do know for sure ONE thing . GM damn well better get their **** together on this one and not do a half-assed job like they did with the Goat. One of THE most important job-1 things to do is hire some sound engineers that know how to make a V8 sound bitchin, even thru the stock exhaust system. The sound is as if not more important than performance - GM are you listening ?
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Originally Posted by QuickT/A
Nice info, thanks for the link. I'm still guessing the base camaro to compete with the mustang Gt will be offered with an HP rating somewhere in the mid 300's and price tag under 30,000. I am going for the 450 horse which I'm hoping will be the SS.
ya but most likely with all the power gains that we have coming out of ford and dodge, and now that they planned on putting the supercharged 6.2 in the upcoming corvette ss, i wouldn't be suprised to see a 6.2 base with 450 hp as a z28, and a supercharged 6.2 as a ss, with approximately 550 hp. Its basicly going to be the same motor as the corvettes, its just that the supercharger is going to be slightly detuned. The corvette was said to push more the 600 hp. So its going to be around 50 or so hp difference in between the camaro ss and the corvette ss.
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I sure hope they do this right as do all of you out there. I really want to buy a camaro, and if I can afford it without huge dealer mark ups, buy the top of the line camaro. The gt500 goes with an incredible mark up that makes me sick. When the stupid PT cruiser hit the market, they had a mark up too. Now GM wasted there time and made the HHR a dollar short and five years late. Even the commercial for the HHR is with naked guys dancing around it on a busy street. GM pull your head out of your @77 before you make a camaro add like that one. I pray that GM does make a good v6 base v8 and a king kong v8 that we can all be proud of. In fact if GM does a good enough job the may be able to sell the Camaro as an Opel in Europe.
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Originally Posted by Levoncmo
ya but most likely with all the power gains that we have coming out of ford and dodge, and now that they planned on putting the supercharged 6.2 in the upcoming corvette ss, i wouldn't be suprised to see a 6.2 base with 450 hp as a z28, and a supercharged 6.2 as a ss, with approximately 550 hp. Its basicly going to be the same motor as the corvettes, its just that the supercharger is going to be slightly detuned. The corvette was said to push more the 600 hp. So its going to be around 50 or so hp difference in between the camaro ss and the corvette ss.
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Look for the Camaro to be a 400HP LS2. The SS will more than likely be a similar situation with the last SS/Z28 with the SS getting more power from a less restrictive intake and exhaust. A 7 litre version won't happen, it will put the car to far beyond the price point GM wants to achieve. Remember the LS7 comes from Katech and that makes it a big price bump.
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Originally Posted by QuickT/A
Nice info, thanks for the link. I'm still guessing the base camaro to compete with the mustang Gt will be offered with an HP rating somewhere in the mid 300's and price tag under 30,000. I am going for the 450 horse which I'm hoping will be the SS.
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Originally Posted by Camaro734
I sure hope they do this right as do all of you out there. I really want to buy a camaro, and if I can afford it without huge dealer mark ups, buy the top of the line camaro. The gt500 goes with an incredible mark up that makes me sick. When the stupid PT cruiser hit the market, they had a mark up too. Now GM wasted there time and made the HHR a dollar short and five years late. Even the commercial for the HHR is with naked guys dancing around it on a busy street. GM pull your head out of your @77 before you make a camaro add like that one. I pray that GM does make a good v6 base v8 and a king kong v8 that we can all be proud of. In fact if GM does a good enough job the may be able to sell the Camaro as an Opel in Europe.
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Originally Posted by Devylyst
i think it should be like this:
V6 250hp
V8 base model between 380 to 400hp
V8 Z28 400hp
V8 SS 460hp
ZL1 600hp
V6 250hp
V8 base model between 380 to 400hp
V8 Z28 400hp
V8 SS 460hp
ZL1 600hp
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Originally Posted by chris93266
this is just like the 60s during the muscle car era with all this competition. i see it all falling off real fast, just like the 70s.
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Price and apperance will win.
Before I say this keep in mind, I hate Ford. The Mustang won the war because it offered two things the general public wanted. Low price,and distinctive looks. Was the Camaro a better car? Hell yea. But the average person that wanted a sports car was looking for something affordable. Which ment the Mustang with around 1500 to 2000 less won that battle. Then you go for appearance. What was the only difference between the Z28 and RS model in the 90s? A couple stickers that said Z28?? Ok, so you had a WAY better engine and performance. But thats only half the battle. Just look at the Camaros in the seventies. When you bought a Z28 you bought a Z28.
However I will say, the Camaros and Birds in the last two years finally woke up. Too bad it was just too late. Had they done that back in 98 we would be beating up on the Mustangs like you wouldnt believe. Well......even more so.
However I will say, the Camaros and Birds in the last two years finally woke up. Too bad it was just too late. Had they done that back in 98 we would be beating up on the Mustangs like you wouldnt believe. Well......even more so.
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
Actually, it's the other way around, pal! If there is a huge break in price between the V6 and the lowest V8, I might just go get a Mustang instead! I'm tired of every coupe on the market with any inkling of power being ~$30K.
Don't spoil your fun? I don't want to spoil your fun, I just want some fun of my own, at a price that I can afford! I kind of get this snobbish attitude from a few of the people on this board who act like it's a status symbol to have a V8 F-body....I don't like that at all!
Don't spoil your fun? I don't want to spoil your fun, I just want some fun of my own, at a price that I can afford! I kind of get this snobbish attitude from a few of the people on this board who act like it's a status symbol to have a V8 F-body....I don't like that at all!
Bro if you like ford so much what are you doing in the LS1 Website?? You have to understand this guy and me personally want a V8 model that everyone can afford; in this case it is a obvious way to chevy.HOWEVER we also want a really big motor to hit the pavement with. I think you should chill out and be a part of the tread instead of talking **** about everyone. I'm telling you because is not the first time I see this kind of comment from you.
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Originally Posted by bboyxclub
Bro if you like ford so much what are you doing in the LS1 Website?? You have to understand this guy and me personally want a V8 model that everyone can afford; in this case it is a obvious way to chevy.HOWEVER we also want a really big motor to hit the pavement with. I think you should chill out and be a part of the tread instead of talking **** about everyone. I'm telling you because is not the first time I see this kind of comment from you.
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
First of all, I'm not a Ford fan, I was being insulting to prove a point. Second of all, I'm not entirely sure just who you are directing your comments to, because your sentence structure is the suck. Try again with subjects and verbs concisely stated, please.
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enough with the arguin were all friends here i think the camaro z28 will have the 6.2 LS3 thats in the standard '08 vette, good for 430hp. supercharged ss? ya neva know (til 09 that is)
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Originally Posted by bboyxclub
You might be right, English is my second language and I don't bother to check on my spelling sometimes. However I think I was very clear and you understood me perfectly that you were being a A*****. Everyone has a opinion and your "I'm perfect" actituded is not appreciated or wanted. You know that you reacted with a very nasty way to the comment that guy did I don't know what made you upset but I guess it was just something personal you took on. It might help to see how you frase your comments later on!**HINT***
I was just put off by the attitude against a mid-range Camaro, THAT'S IT. I'm not angry at all, just a bit frustrated with some of the closed-mindedness around here. I didn't think I was being that nasty, but ok....
If I hurt anyones feelings, please PM me so I can send some flowers and my personal condolences.