View Poll Results: Which options would you like to see in the new Camaro?
z28-300hp, SS 6.0 400 hp, ZL1 7.0 500 hp
291
27.95%
z28 6.0 400hp, SS 7.0 500 hp
595
57.16%
Any of above but z28 being top runer
118
11.34%
Don't offer a 7.0 500 hp Camaro let the GT 500 stay up front.
37
3.55%
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08-03-2007, 12:57 AM
#121
Originally Posted by StangKillaLS1
I hope they dont make the new camaros super heavy like the GT500's.
that would be killer to have a ZL1 model. But I somehow just dont see that being an option but you never know. Maybe they will comeout with a new engine something like a LS3 or something when they come out.
Id think they would make the V6 compareable to the V6 mustang and only make 200-250hp. Im sure we will see a 400hp V8 either ss or z28.
that would be killer to have a ZL1 model. But I somehow just dont see that being an option but you never know. Maybe they will comeout with a new engine something like a LS3 or something when they come out.
Id think they would make the V6 compareable to the V6 mustang and only make 200-250hp. Im sure we will see a 400hp V8 either ss or z28.
08-03-2007, 08:17 AM
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I don't ever want to hear Camaro and FWD_ in the same sentence again! lets all stcik 2 our roots please if u want FWD please go on a import forum or atleast not LSX one!
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for starters, atleast ford got it right not make the stang a FWD platform in the 80's. Now they have a probe, and thats fine, cause they would of killed whatever momentum they would of had.
Now, there has been a few good points posted here. First, I would love to see chevy stick with the N/A small block performance. Guys, remember something, there is that new GM block that anyone, right now, can pump out 454ci, for example, of raw power. And even more ci's if you so wish.
With that, a base v6 should a considerable performer and yield over 20mpg. The new 3.6 comes to mind, however, i think the DOD program from GM will be its bread and butter with the current and upcoming fuel economy wars. Also, you could have a 300hp+ v6 for those that want a stronger v-6, still with decent mpg and not be a slouch.
For the v8's, i think a two or three spec plan might work out. I vote a two engine program, but there is a market for v8 performance at a reasonable value. Thus, it may look like this:
1. 5.3L 362-390hp (Good performance with DOD)
2. 6.2L 430-450hp (The new standard of camaro performance, with DOD)
3. 6.?? 500-530hp (Im not sure on final disp, but it can anywhere for 6.7L to 7.0L or more. However, DOD wouldn't be a necesary option as if will be a limited production and honestly, I wouldn't care if it made 20mpg or 15mpg!)
With that, you can derive a few options and/or trims to suit a good variety of possibly owners. You know your gonna have the ppl that want to take it before the break-in period to the track and rip on it. So, make a stripper version with a hardtop. You gotta make a t-top/targa top option and of couse the convertible. Add features like bluetooth, ipod interface, navigation, wamers/coolers for the seats, and slick interior surfaces, like the leather wraped dashboard. I would be all over that!!!!!
And of course, make the visuals accordingly to the trim. The bad boy SS/ZL1 with strips, GF's, etc. Personally, i would love if they made it a ZL1 since that just sounds cool!!!
With those numbers standard, GM/chevy will have a lineup that will hang with just anything fords brings out and it sure as hell with outhandling it.
Now, there has been a few good points posted here. First, I would love to see chevy stick with the N/A small block performance. Guys, remember something, there is that new GM block that anyone, right now, can pump out 454ci, for example, of raw power. And even more ci's if you so wish.
With that, a base v6 should a considerable performer and yield over 20mpg. The new 3.6 comes to mind, however, i think the DOD program from GM will be its bread and butter with the current and upcoming fuel economy wars. Also, you could have a 300hp+ v6 for those that want a stronger v-6, still with decent mpg and not be a slouch.
For the v8's, i think a two or three spec plan might work out. I vote a two engine program, but there is a market for v8 performance at a reasonable value. Thus, it may look like this:
1. 5.3L 362-390hp (Good performance with DOD)
2. 6.2L 430-450hp (The new standard of camaro performance, with DOD)
3. 6.?? 500-530hp (Im not sure on final disp, but it can anywhere for 6.7L to 7.0L or more. However, DOD wouldn't be a necesary option as if will be a limited production and honestly, I wouldn't care if it made 20mpg or 15mpg!)
With that, you can derive a few options and/or trims to suit a good variety of possibly owners. You know your gonna have the ppl that want to take it before the break-in period to the track and rip on it. So, make a stripper version with a hardtop. You gotta make a t-top/targa top option and of couse the convertible. Add features like bluetooth, ipod interface, navigation, wamers/coolers for the seats, and slick interior surfaces, like the leather wraped dashboard. I would be all over that!!!!!
And of course, make the visuals accordingly to the trim. The bad boy SS/ZL1 with strips, GF's, etc. Personally, i would love if they made it a ZL1 since that just sounds cool!!!
With those numbers standard, GM/chevy will have a lineup that will hang with just anything fords brings out and it sure as hell with outhandling it.
08-15-2007, 02:16 PM
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The 5.3 liter won't happen, GM is already putting a 362 HP 6.0 liter in the G8 and Impala, theres a good chance, if there were 2 V8s, that that would be the base
08-25-2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
The 5.3 liter won't happen, GM is already putting a 362 HP 6.0 liter in the G8 and Impala, theres a good chance, if there were 2 V8s, that that would be the base
It's just that a 6.0L engine sounds too big for a base performance engine. IDK...
08-28-2007, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
you know, that gets me thinking, what if GM has a new displacement V8 in the works, like a 5.5 or 5.7L with DOD and some new technology to replace the old 5.3L? I mean the 5.3L IS a little grey on top, being like 8 years old...
It's just that a 6.0L engine sounds too big for a base performance engine. IDK...
It's just that a 6.0L engine sounds too big for a base performance engine. IDK...
08-29-2007, 09:01 PM
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oh christ leave the horsepower per liter to the jap companys... i dont know why people get off on hp/liter. All that matters if how much horsepower you have. period.
Lets compare gas mileage per horsepower. Engine weight to horsepower. Low displacement high horsepower engines dont have as much potential and usually have shitty torque torque curves and just arnt as fun to drive...
Give me as much displacement you can give me without ruining the drivebility of the car with weight. GM can go atleast 7 liters right now and not be any heavier then our ls1. Im sure they could go bigger if they needed. The lsx block for an extra 110 pounds can go to what 481 ci? Ill take that please.
Lets compare gas mileage per horsepower. Engine weight to horsepower. Low displacement high horsepower engines dont have as much potential and usually have shitty torque torque curves and just arnt as fun to drive...
Give me as much displacement you can give me without ruining the drivebility of the car with weight. GM can go atleast 7 liters right now and not be any heavier then our ls1. Im sure they could go bigger if they needed. The lsx block for an extra 110 pounds can go to what 481 ci? Ill take that please.
08-30-2007, 12:26 AM
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I didn't mean it like that. Japanese cars are overrated mothers....
I'm saying I'm going to hear this loud engine rumble, be thinking its some sports car, and turn around an its an Impala... lol
I'm saying I'm going to hear this loud engine rumble, be thinking its some sports car, and turn around an its an Impala... lol
09-02-2007, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
I didn't mean it like that. Japanese cars are overrated mothers....
I'm saying I'm going to hear this loud engine rumble, be thinking its some sports car, and turn around an its an Impala... lol
I'm saying I'm going to hear this loud engine rumble, be thinking its some sports car, and turn around an its an Impala... lol
09-10-2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by obZidian
for starters, atleast ford got it right not make the stang a FWD platform in the 80's. Now they have a probe, and thats fine, cause they would of killed whatever momentum they would of had.
Now, there has been a few good points posted here. First, I would love to see chevy stick with the N/A small block performance. Guys, remember something, there is that new GM block that anyone, right now, can pump out 454ci, for example, of raw power. And even more ci's if you so wish.
With that, a base v6 should a considerable performer and yield over 20mpg. The new 3.6 comes to mind, however, i think the DOD program from GM will be its bread and butter with the current and upcoming fuel economy wars. Also, you could have a 300hp+ v6 for those that want a stronger v-6, still with decent mpg and not be a slouch.
For the v8's, i think a two or three spec plan might work out. I vote a two engine program, but there is a market for v8 performance at a reasonable value. Thus, it may look like this:
1. 5.3L 362-390hp (Good performance with DOD)
2. 6.2L 430-450hp (The new standard of camaro performance, with DOD)
3. 6.?? 500-530hp (Im not sure on final disp, but it can anywhere for 6.7L to 7.0L or more. However, DOD wouldn't be a necesary option as if will be a limited production and honestly, I wouldn't care if it made 20mpg or 15mpg!)
With that, you can derive a few options and/or trims to suit a good variety of possibly owners. You know your gonna have the ppl that want to take it before the break-in period to the track and rip on it. So, make a stripper version with a hardtop. You gotta make a t-top/targa top option and of couse the convertible. Add features like bluetooth, ipod interface, navigation, wamers/coolers for the seats, and slick interior surfaces, like the leather wraped dashboard. I would be all over that!!!!!
And of course, make the visuals accordingly to the trim. The bad boy SS/ZL1 with strips, GF's, etc. Personally, i would love if they made it a ZL1 since that just sounds cool!!!
With those numbers standard, GM/chevy will have a lineup that will hang with just anything fords brings out and it sure as hell with outhandling it.
Now, there has been a few good points posted here. First, I would love to see chevy stick with the N/A small block performance. Guys, remember something, there is that new GM block that anyone, right now, can pump out 454ci, for example, of raw power. And even more ci's if you so wish.
With that, a base v6 should a considerable performer and yield over 20mpg. The new 3.6 comes to mind, however, i think the DOD program from GM will be its bread and butter with the current and upcoming fuel economy wars. Also, you could have a 300hp+ v6 for those that want a stronger v-6, still with decent mpg and not be a slouch.
For the v8's, i think a two or three spec plan might work out. I vote a two engine program, but there is a market for v8 performance at a reasonable value. Thus, it may look like this:
1. 5.3L 362-390hp (Good performance with DOD)
2. 6.2L 430-450hp (The new standard of camaro performance, with DOD)
3. 6.?? 500-530hp (Im not sure on final disp, but it can anywhere for 6.7L to 7.0L or more. However, DOD wouldn't be a necesary option as if will be a limited production and honestly, I wouldn't care if it made 20mpg or 15mpg!)
With that, you can derive a few options and/or trims to suit a good variety of possibly owners. You know your gonna have the ppl that want to take it before the break-in period to the track and rip on it. So, make a stripper version with a hardtop. You gotta make a t-top/targa top option and of couse the convertible. Add features like bluetooth, ipod interface, navigation, wamers/coolers for the seats, and slick interior surfaces, like the leather wraped dashboard. I would be all over that!!!!!
And of course, make the visuals accordingly to the trim. The bad boy SS/ZL1 with strips, GF's, etc. Personally, i would love if they made it a ZL1 since that just sounds cool!!!
With those numbers standard, GM/chevy will have a lineup that will hang with just anything fords brings out and it sure as hell with outhandling it.
09-12-2007, 04:28 PM
#134
Originally Posted by chromeplated500
not to **** anyone off.. but im not up for havin a 300hp v6... smoke some v8 camaros.... pry shouldnt do that.
09-13-2007, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmyz
Why? I think that'd be GREAT!! I can smoke an LT1 Camaro (stock) in my DD V-6 G35 Sedan and a Mudstain too for that matter. Progress and technology are great why hold back?!
09-13-2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chromeplated500
not to **** anyone off.. but im not up for havin a 300hp v6... smoke some v8 camaros.... pry shouldnt do that.
You think GM should water down the new V6 Camaro so that people will buy a (slightly) more powerful 4th gen? GM already made their money selling 4th gens when they were NEW!
They have nothing to gain by watering down a V6 Camaro. Hell if by 2009 GM doesnt use a decent V6 that is cranking close to 300 horses, somethings F'd up.
The more the horsepower in any model, the better PERIOD. Sure they have a nice economy Camaro for you, a performance V6, and an even more power V8(s) model(s).
I don't think a performance V6 Camaro should surpass a standard V8 Camaro, but if you want GM to screw over the performance V6 so that your LT1 and LS1 aren't put to shame, then you shouldn't be on this forum.
I'm tired of this ****, that V6s are looked down on. Ok they'll never be a V8 true, but not everyone can afford a V8 MSRP, gas prices, and insurance. Not all of GM's consumers want that. So if they make a decent performance V6, I'm all for it. You don't have to be a hard core modder to appreciate the Camaro
09-13-2007, 06:29 PM
#137
Originally Posted by hc8719
Thats stupid. The first LS1 in F-bodies by 2009 will have been 11 years ago!
You think GM should water down the new V6 Camaro so that people will buy a (slightly) more powerful 4th gen? GM already made their money selling 4th gens when they were NEW!
They have nothing to gain by watering down a V6 Camaro. Hell if by 2009 GM doesnt use a decent V6 that is cranking close to 300 horses, somethings F'd up.
The more the horsepower in any model, the better PERIOD. Sure they have a nice economy Camaro for you, a performance V6, and an even more power V8(s) model(s).
I don't think a performance V6 Camaro should surpass a standard V8 Camaro, but if you want GM to screw over the performance V6 so that your LT1 and LS1 aren't put to shame, then you shouldn't be on this forum.
I'm tired of this ****, that V6s are looked down on. Ok they'll never be a V8 true, but not everyone can afford a V8 MSRP, gas prices, and insurance. Not all of GM's consumers want that. So if they make a decent performance V6, I'm all for it. You don't have to be a hard core modder to appreciate the Camaro
You think GM should water down the new V6 Camaro so that people will buy a (slightly) more powerful 4th gen? GM already made their money selling 4th gens when they were NEW!
They have nothing to gain by watering down a V6 Camaro. Hell if by 2009 GM doesnt use a decent V6 that is cranking close to 300 horses, somethings F'd up.
The more the horsepower in any model, the better PERIOD. Sure they have a nice economy Camaro for you, a performance V6, and an even more power V8(s) model(s).
I don't think a performance V6 Camaro should surpass a standard V8 Camaro, but if you want GM to screw over the performance V6 so that your LT1 and LS1 aren't put to shame, then you shouldn't be on this forum.
I'm tired of this ****, that V6s are looked down on. Ok they'll never be a V8 true, but not everyone can afford a V8 MSRP, gas prices, and insurance. Not all of GM's consumers want that. So if they make a decent performance V6, I'm all for it. You don't have to be a hard core modder to appreciate the Camaro
Gotta have a V-8 Camaro/F-Bod for sure but I just don't understand why the auto enthusiast wouldn't want a powerful V-6 as well.
09-14-2007, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmyz
Right on !! I think it's very important that the new Camaro has a 300+hp V-6. WTH, would anyone who cant afford or doesn't want a V-8 buy a Camaro with a shitty 255hp V-6 when they can get a RWD jap sedan with more power?
Gotta have a V-8 Camaro/F-Bod for sure but I just don't understand why the auto enthusiast wouldn't want a powerful V-6 as well.
Gotta have a V-8 Camaro/F-Bod for sure but I just don't understand why the auto enthusiast wouldn't want a powerful V-6 as well.
09-14-2007, 04:42 PM
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hydramatic and I were having a big discussion about the 5.3 liter V8. He wanted a 5.3, I didn't, to say the least.
I somewhat understand your 5.3 argument though hydramatic. However If the Camaro has a regular V8 and performance V8 option, I think the regular V8 should at least be the 6.0 liter going into the new Impala and G8, not the 5.3 liter.
I somewhat understand your 5.3 argument though hydramatic. However If the Camaro has a regular V8 and performance V8 option, I think the regular V8 should at least be the 6.0 liter going into the new Impala and G8, not the 5.3 liter.
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