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Old 01-16-2009, 07:15 PM
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I have been trying to figure out which part to buy next for my car. I already have a lid, maf, headers, ory and catback and will be adding some drag radials next month. I was planning on adding a 3600 stall at the same time, but here's my dilemma. I will probably never hit a track with this car. I know that stalls help with the holeshot, but most of the pulls I do around here start at around 25mph or so. I am just wondering if maybe I should be looking at going a different route. I was thinking about maybe just a cam or a fast 90/90. I could really use some advice.
Old 01-16-2009, 07:19 PM
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Well I would not get a FAST 90/90 until you have a cam, and a stall would be cheaper than a cam set-up(cam, valve springs, push rods, oil pump, chain). I think a stall would be your best bet right now.
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One thing that is really concerning me, is the fact that stalls like to eat up rwhp (or so I have heard). People around here like to go from rolls. Hence my problem.
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^^^^^thats not a problem. yes they eat RWHP but all things equal the stall car will stomp a non-stalled car i dont care what a dyno says. your butt dyno will be happy and rolls are way faster with stalls bc they kill low spots that the auto cars have.
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If all you do is roll races just swap to a T-56 that would give you a better hit on the roll than a stall or a cam... Seriously though I think the cam would be most effective out of your list.
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cam would deff go in before a fast intake, on a stock motor the fast wouldnt do much of anything anyways to be honest.
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I'm probably gonna just bite the bullet and go stall, 3.73s and some drs. I have been debating this for about 3 months now, and next month is the time to put up or shut up. I just don't wanna put the stall in and then have to rebuild my tranny or rear-end immediately afterwards because honestly, I'm not made of money.
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Originally Posted by Swift_01_z-28
I'm probably gonna just bite the bullet and go stall, 3.73s and some drs. I have been debating this for about 3 months now, and next month is the time to put up or shut up. I just don't wanna put the stall in and then have to rebuild my tranny or rear-end immediately afterwards because honestly, I'm not made of money.
I wouldn't get the stall. They kill daily drivers. I would go with some suspension upgrades. 3.73s sound good, but be careful not to destroy your 10 bolt. And I would definitely go with a H/C setup.
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I wouldn't get the stall. They kill daily drivers. I would go with some suspension upgrades. 3.73s sound good, but be careful not to destroy your 10 bolt. And I would definitely go with a H/C setup.
I know a hell of a lot of people with mid-range stalls in their DD's and love them, but I've never been in one so I dunno. And from everything I've seen a stall is damn near mandatory for a H/C A4, seems like a good place to start to me. But for roll-only races, a cam should be at the top of the list. 3.73's would be a great idea too.
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Originally Posted by NSSANE02
I know a hell of a lot of people with mid-range stalls in their DD's and love them, but I've never been in one so I dunno. And from everything I've seen a stall is damn near mandatory for a H/C A4, seems like a good place to start to me. But for roll-only races, a cam should be at the top of the list. 3.73's would be a great idea too.
Everyone's different I guess. Mandatory is a joke though, a good tune and the RIGHT cam setup works fine. I don't plan on ever getting a stall and I'm going with a TSP 228R 112 LSA and stage 2.5 5.3l ported heads. I've been in stalled cars, and driving them on the street for me completely kills the experience and point of having a street rod. But like I said, everyone's different.
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Originally Posted by 00Antivenom
Everyone's different I guess. Mandatory is a joke though, a good tune and the RIGHT cam setup works fine. I don't plan on ever getting a stall and I'm going with a TSP 228R 112 LSA and stage 2.5 5.3l ported heads. I've been in stalled cars, and driving them on the street for me completely kills the experience and point of having a street rod. But like I said, everyone's different.
As far as the driving experience goes I can't say one way or the other about stalled autos cause I've never been in one. And you're right... I use the word "mandatory" very loosly, but the fact is a stalled H/C car will perform better than one with a stock converter.
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Originally Posted by NSSANE02
As far as the driving experience goes I can't say one way or the other about stalled autos cause I've never been in one. And you're right... I use the word "mandatory" very loosly, but the fact is a stalled H/C car will perform better than one with a stock converter.
You're right, it will help you get fast faster. The only problem is you lose most of what's below the RPMs your stall is geared to. Driving it on the streets is tougher to keep it going smooth. At the track, by all means it's a blessing. And for the occasional stop light run when no cops are around. Just not my tastes. And I agree with you, even if I was going the stall route, I would say go for H/C setup and then intake. And then I would go for 3.73s, with the stall somewhere around the same time as the gears. Much like H/C, stall and gears should be done together if you plan on doing them.
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I know that if I ever do a h/c swap, I would make sure they work together, then worry about matching the stall to the cam and then the gears and a new tranny and rear-end. Now that is a long ways away. I'm going with some chrome 17x9.5 c5z06s and some drag radials on the back and a new catback and probably a bbk 85mm tb. I know that I should wait and get a FAST 90/90 or 92/92 to replace the tb, but I probably won't ever do that. I am gonna finish out the regular bolt-ons on this car, slap a ram-air hood on it and wait until I get my z06 or sc'd cobra and then make that one the real go-fast car. Can't forget plugs and wires and a good dyno tune, probably from Texas Speed. I was considering an ud pulley, but I am still on the fence about that one.
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You have the same problem that I do. It seems like everyone can beat me from a roll and my tires are too worn out to keep up with anyone from a dig. I'll be getting some drags next month though and hopefully that will help. I hate loosing from a roll because I have an A4. It is extremely annoying.
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Well, let me just put it like this. Look at my mod-list below, and I can tell you that the stall was the best go-faster mod of them all without a doubt.
And, I DD mine as well. A stall made it a different DD, but it's still very DDable.

If you're still on the 2.73 gears, I'd recommend getting 3.73s after the stall.
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I DD my car i got a Vig 3600 and 3.73. I was worried about the stall for driving but i love it.
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Ha ha, like I said, everyone is different.
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^^^ your H/C with a 228 is gonna get stomped by a stalled 224 cam only car from a dig, it will be an embarassment

Originally Posted by 00Antivenom
I don't plan on ever getting a stall and I'm going with a TSP 228R 112 LSA and stage 2.5 5.3l ported heads.

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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
^^^ your H/C with a 228 is gonna get stomped by a stalled 224 cam only car.
We'll see.
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from what i have seen on cars, drag radials arent that effective unless they are hot, then they work very well, so if your going to be doing alot of roles then they aren't being used to their full potential unless you stop and burn them off before you race, and then if you do that your going to be great out of the hole. i'd put a stall in that thing, get your tires hot and race people from a dig. i'm not big on role racing, we have a drag strip in my town so most street cars run there on sundays, so we like to go from a stop.



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