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Old 03-09-2009, 01:04 PM
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I have a friend with a Camaro and it always takes him two to three tries before the car will start whenever it is cold. When the car is warm, it will usually start ont he first try. But when cold, it takes either two or three times turning it over for it to fire. Any ideas?

Car will not start n the first try when cold no matter how long you hold the key over. It just takes two to three times each time.
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Fuel pump or filter would be my first two suggestions. Check the fuel pressure and swap the filter since they're cheap..
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Originally Posted by SNEKATK
Fuel pump or filter would be my first two suggestions. Check the fuel pressure and swap the filter since they're cheap..
Yea, what he said. Fuel filters can definately cause this. That is the first and cheapest thing to try. If that does not fix it, check the fuel press. If the pump is going bad it can lose its' prime overnight and take a couple of times cranking to build up enough press.
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the problem doesnt change at all when he allows the fuel pump to prime, even if he allows it to prime two or three times before trying to start it. Do you still think it is fuel related guys?

Might as well change that out anyway though..
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
the problem doesnt change at all when he allows the fuel pump to prime, even if he allows it to prime two or three times before trying to start it. Do you still think it is fuel related guys?

Might as well change that out anyway though..
What year Camaro and what engine might help
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Originally Posted by ghardester
What year Camaro and what engine might help
Duh.. Sorry. It's an 01 Camaro with a LS2 402 and an M6, but it did the same exact thing with it's old 347/A4 setup
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instead of trying to just start it right up turn the key to the accessory stage and wait 2-3 seconds and then go ahead and start it on up
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Originally Posted by Texass683
instead of trying to just start it right up turn the key to the accessory stage and wait 2-3 seconds and then go ahead and start it on up
That makes no difference. Even if the pump primes 2 or 3 times before startup it makes no difference
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Does he push the gas pedal at all when he does this when it's cold? If not try that. It's gonna be fuel/spark/air related. If pushing the pedal a little helps then he may want to drill out the little hole in the tb blade some or have a second look at the tune. Just start with the easy stuff then work your way up.
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Originally Posted by blue98Z
Does he push the gas pedal at all when he does this when it's cold? If not try that. It's gonna be fuel/spark/air related. If pushing the pedal a little helps then he may want to drill out the little hole in the tb blade some or have a second look at the tune. Just start with the easy stuff then work your way up.
Pushing the gas pedal makes no difference either. It still requires 2-3 starts to get it going when the coolant is cold. Thanks for all of the suggestions so far
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Can't hurt to check temp sensors (air, ect) with a multimeter. Check resistance when cold, then when warm, do it with key off so as not to set a code. Cold resistance should be high, low when warm. Check wiring too. Here is a generic temp/resistance chart off autozone for ect:

http://econtent.autozone.com:24991/z...528008f095.jpg
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Replace the ignition relay... Mine did this too and then it just stopped starting completely but would turn over still and get fuel...
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Originally Posted by not7fifteen
Replace the ignition relay... Mine did this too and then it just stopped starting completely but would turn over still and get fuel...
!! This might be the answer. You wouldnt happen to have a part # would ya?
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No sorry, just go to an autoparts store and they can find it for ya... Did you ever resolve this? It was a pain in my *** for a couple weeks when it happened to me..
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might need to hook up and look at engine data and see if the iac or coolant sensor is reading propper.ive seen where cts will go bad when cold and read -40 degress and make everything rich as hell.
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Swap the ignition relay with another one the same size and see if that fixes it. I had the exact same symptoms and that was my problem. Replaced the relay and haven't had an issue since.
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did the relay fix your problem?
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
!! This might be the answer. You wouldnt happen to have a part # would ya?
just start with the easy stuff and check the battery and alternator. it's not fuel related if priming the pump several times doesnt help. batteries REALLY don't like cold, but how cold does it get on a cold day for you? if the battery is indeed in need of charging, this would be why. don't start randomly replacing parts until you've narrowed your problem down a bit
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Originally Posted by johnson73801
might need to hook up and look at engine data and see if the iac or coolant sensor is reading propper.ive seen where cts will go bad when cold and read -40 degress and make everything rich as hell.
^^this. go to autozone, test your battery and alternator and hook your car to their scan tool all in one trip. as for the ECT reading -40, just about any car computer is programed to assume the coolant temperature is -40 if it loses the ECT sensor, which will cause the car to run rich to try to warm it up.



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