Has the ls1 losts it's street credibility?
10-27-2009, 11:26 AM
#162
your play on words about the carb and stereotypes
makes you sound dumb.
10-27-2009, 11:56 AM
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OK so we have established that our 12 year old LS1 can still down a 2010 Mustang. I feel the same as everyone else, but at the same time if I get taken out by another car I want to see what he has... With that said WTF is a "Terminator"??????
10-27-2009, 12:12 PM
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Thank you sorry to jack. But seriously, I get more compliments on my car than anything I have ever owned (and it is not flashy). They always ask, "is that the LS1?", to which I reply "why, yes" and they reply with something like, "nice" or "man I wish I had one". So nope, no credibility lost here...
10-29-2009, 07:45 PM
#166
those bastards
10-29-2009, 11:55 PM
#168
I live in the country and people are behind the times. A guy once told me that my LS1 is nice but it wasn't anything compared to his LT1.............So I proceded to spank his *** by about 4 cars.
Older people always assume that since our cars are computer controlled they are inferior to their old alternator, carb combo. They are usaully the easiest ones to beat since they don't know any better.
Older people always assume that since our cars are computer controlled they are inferior to their old alternator, carb combo. They are usaully the easiest ones to beat since they don't know any better.
10-30-2009, 10:12 AM
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Ya where I live the LS1 is respected. People hear is has an LS1 in it and they start to worry. But those are the same people that think every motor in the LSX family is an LS1 which right there proves they dont know what they're talking about
10-30-2009, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, when TBI and TPI first came out, the 180 horse motors probably didn't make a good initial impression. The carb motors of the muscle car era were more powerful. But we are talking about 25 years ago. Some people are stuck in 1985.
10-30-2009, 11:45 AM
#172
yep. I'm sure there are EFI power benefits somewhere in that equation as well. So to make 10 extra peak horsepower (if that, and you probably lose some at different areas of the RPM range)... you're willing to sacrifice a large amount of fuel economy and efficiency?
Running a carb, these days, is kinda like firing up MS-DOS 6.22 on your brand new Intel Core i7 box with 6 gigs of RAM and a solid state drive to play Doom 2. It'll run ungodly fast, but is about the most inefficient use of hardware since ... well, since people started retrofitting Carbs to pushrod VVT v8's.
Running a carb, these days, is kinda like firing up MS-DOS 6.22 on your brand new Intel Core i7 box with 6 gigs of RAM and a solid state drive to play Doom 2. It'll run ungodly fast, but is about the most inefficient use of hardware since ... well, since people started retrofitting Carbs to pushrod VVT v8's.
10-30-2009, 01:52 PM
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yep. I'm sure there are EFI power benefits somewhere in that equation as well. So to make 10 extra peak horsepower (if that, and you probably lose some at different areas of the RPM range)... you're willing to sacrifice a large amount of fuel economy and efficiency?
Running a carb, these days, is kinda like firing up MS-DOS 6.22 on your brand new Intel Core i7 box with 6 gigs of RAM and a solid state drive to play Doom 2. It'll run ungodly fast, but is about the most inefficient use of hardware since ... well, since people started retrofitting Carbs to pushrod VVT v8's.
Running a carb, these days, is kinda like firing up MS-DOS 6.22 on your brand new Intel Core i7 box with 6 gigs of RAM and a solid state drive to play Doom 2. It'll run ungodly fast, but is about the most inefficient use of hardware since ... well, since people started retrofitting Carbs to pushrod VVT v8's.
efficiency debate is subjective.
a properly tuned,correctly sized carb will net excellent mpg under normal driving. i drive my carb hi compression car everywhere and get fair mpg for tradeoff of easy tunability. accelerated driving will consume more fuel obviously on any car.
at the track i dont blame my slow times on a tune or lack thereof.
just need a screwdriver, few minutes, a few small metal pieces. problem solved
10-30-2009, 03:59 PM
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I can't speak for the ls1, but some of the 4cyl carb conversions I've seen, they take a motor that was getting mid 30's, and drop it all the way into the low teens.
On a carb setup, you could potentially just activate the vvt with an rpm triggered switch. It's not optimum, but plenty of older vvt systems work that way.
GM guys are really spoiled when it comes to efi tuning. What can be done for a few hundred dollars on an ls1 can cost several thousand on Hondas, Toyotas, etc.... This latest e38 ly6 project I wired for my brother was pretty impressive for the money. I honestly can't think of a way you could go faster cheaper. The only Japanese thing I can think of that would get close would be a 2jzgte (93+ supra motor) into a 2800lb mid 80's supra.
On a carb setup, you could potentially just activate the vvt with an rpm triggered switch. It's not optimum, but plenty of older vvt systems work that way.
GM guys are really spoiled when it comes to efi tuning. What can be done for a few hundred dollars on an ls1 can cost several thousand on Hondas, Toyotas, etc.... This latest e38 ly6 project I wired for my brother was pretty impressive for the money. I honestly can't think of a way you could go faster cheaper. The only Japanese thing I can think of that would get close would be a 2jzgte (93+ supra motor) into a 2800lb mid 80's supra.
11-03-2009, 08:33 PM
#175
wow, long thread....whew!
i dont think its lost street credibility. im nat going to beat a dead horse on this, its been said 100 times in this post. still plenty of them at the top on the street.
only thing i dont like, i had an LT1 ta in high school, always had good runs with ls1 cars. they couldnt drive....lol. but always wanted a ls1. now that i could finally aford one, they got (as said) ls2,3,7,9, way more crazy ****. but a good thing with the new ones coming out is, maybe parts prices will start dropping for our fbody's....we can hope (400 bucks for a cam is quite a bit...) but power/weight, thats what im digging. so i picked up some cnc 243's getting a cam, and ill just keep the bottle full. in my area 10 second street cars are few and far between, quick stuff on the street is maybe in the 12's....lol.
its a top performer at the track and the street, all i can say about it---still has pushrods, 2 valves, small and light, and didnt need a supercharger to beat some ***.....(cough) ford....
i dont think its lost street credibility. im nat going to beat a dead horse on this, its been said 100 times in this post. still plenty of them at the top on the street.
only thing i dont like, i had an LT1 ta in high school, always had good runs with ls1 cars. they couldnt drive....lol. but always wanted a ls1. now that i could finally aford one, they got (as said) ls2,3,7,9, way more crazy ****. but a good thing with the new ones coming out is, maybe parts prices will start dropping for our fbody's....we can hope (400 bucks for a cam is quite a bit...) but power/weight, thats what im digging. so i picked up some cnc 243's getting a cam, and ill just keep the bottle full. in my area 10 second street cars are few and far between, quick stuff on the street is maybe in the 12's....lol.
its a top performer at the track and the street, all i can say about it---still has pushrods, 2 valves, small and light, and didnt need a supercharger to beat some ***.....(cough) ford....
