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Old 03-18-2024, 02:11 PM
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Rare, Low Mile Camaro ZL1 Supercar Phase III is up For Grabs
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With only about 400 miles on the odometer, this car is practically brand-spankin' new!


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This car is for sale at a specialty dealer/museum in my region, one that I have visited many times over several decades. They are known for being overpriced, but they will negotiate when a car isn't selling. I've had a couple friends both buy and sell (on consignment) cars through them, and in those cases the sale price ended up being quite a bit less than the initial ask.

This car has been listed on their site for quite some time now, so I think a much better deal can be had than the asking price. I keep an eye on their inventory because they usually get some pretty interesting and very nice quality cars, here is another 4th gen LS1 Camaro that's been there for quite some time and would be a nice collector piece for someone:

https://www.volocars.com/auto-sales/...let-camaro-z28
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Last 4th Gen Camaro ever made? Yeah, that would be a great collectible. Too bad they doused the underhood components with dealer shine-all.
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Last 4th Gen Camaro ever made? Yeah, that would be a great collectible. Too bad they doused the underhood components with dealer shine-all.
One thing to note though, they aren't really correct about it being the "last" 4th gen/2002 Camaro. The paperwork seems to indicate that it was the last "saleable" Camaro, but its STE plant number (4,062,811) isn't consistent with the actual, known, final Camaro off the line (which was number 4,062,813, and was a convertible) pictured here, on the last day of assembly, 8-27-02:



So what became of the true "final" Camaro? Why was it not 'saleable'? Perhaps earmarked for the GM heritage museum? If someone knows where it went, I would love to hear it.
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$150,000 is a 'pie in the sky' price to start with. Simply dreaming for one of those Barrett Jackson buyers with limitless funds.
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There are people who really love Camaros, and are collectors who'd want that. Has no appeal for me, all its value (whatever that is) is wrapped into it's rarity and low mileage. More of a museum piece than a "driver" At 150k, there are number of other cars, some garage-mahal house additions and a few airplanes that would get my attention.
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The last saleable Camaro was a red Z28 coupe, which was sold at the Auburn fall auction in 2002 (see attached flier).

I have a photo of my wife standing next to "a" red Z28 coupe on a carousel at that auction, but can't seem to locate it at the moment. The car on the carousel was a "stunt-double" for the actual last saleable Camaro though.

But the above is correct that the last Camaro off the line was a 'vert. My understanding is that GM kept both the last-built 4th-gen Camaro & Firebird (both red, both 'verts w/ black tops, Z28 & T/A) were kept in GM's Heritage Collection:

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
The last saleable Camaro was a red Z28 coupe, which was sold at the Auburn fall auction in 2002 (see attached flier)...


...But the above is correct that the last Camaro off the line was a 'vert. My understanding is that GM kept both the last-built 4th-gen Camaro & Firebird (both red, both 'verts w/ black tops, Z28 & T/A) were kept in GM's Heritage Collection:
This is what I figured, but it's nice to get confirmation on that. Thanks for the always-great info JohnnyB!
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If y’all had a ridiculous amount of money to spend would you get a driver or a showpiece? I think I’m a driver kind of guy.
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Originally Posted by Y2K_Frenzy
If y’all had a ridiculous amount of money to spend would you get a driver or a showpiece? I think I’m a driver kind of guy.
I don't think I'd want to own a car that I couldn't ever drive (meaning #1 concourse condition), but I generally lean more towards owning "show cars" vs. what most folks would consider a "driver". I always like to have at least one fun/special interest "driver" in my lineup (right now it's my '74, previously it was my '02 Z28), something that I can take out on nice days without having to spend 4-5 hours detailing it back to being spotless after every drive. However, I also really enjoy owning #2 or #2+ type cars that can score competitively in a judged event but still be driven to and from cruise nights and local shows (which is how I use my '71 & '98).

Overall, I'd much rather put my money towards condition & quality vs. rarity/pedigree. In the dinosaur muscle car world, there are folks who will pay huge money just to have something with original exclusivity, but I'd rather have a more common (or cloned) version of the same car that's just as nice or nicer but not worth as much due to its more humble origin. For example, I'd rather own or build a cloned SS454 Chevelle than spend a fortune on an original LS5/6 car, and then I'm also free to use a Dart Big M BBC with 540+ cubic inches rather than worrying about the numbers matching 454ci, etc. So better performance with the same looks, but for less money. Only thing missing would be the pedigree.

I definitely have a huge appreciation for seeing the rare, exclusive factory cars. I just don't really have much interest in spending the money to own one.
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Originally Posted by Y2K_Frenzy
If y’all had a ridiculous amount of money to spend would you get a driver or a showpiece? I think I’m a driver kind of guy.
I've tried to have collector grade cars but I just can't do it. I end up driving everything I own. It may just be 2,000 miles per year some years but they certainly are not just sitting. I NEED TO DRIVE what I have spent good $$$ on. That's me anyway.
I had an elderly neighbor that had about a dozen collector cars which never saw daylight. They were his 'coins' in a coin collection. "Look but don't touch". When he passed he had a 1968 Mustang 289 coupe with around 13,000 original miles on it. He would let me sit in it and you would swear you were in a time capsule at a Ford showroom in 1968.
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