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Old 10-14-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Alright guys, what would it take?

I'm just wondering, if I want to break the 11's (I'm nowhere near it yet), what would it take? What would be the cheapest way to get to the 11's? I don't want to do nitous though, so thats out. Other than that what can I do? I have the exhaust all done and just a lid for the intake, but thats it so far. So what I'm looking for here is the cheapest way for me to get to the 11's? (or at least very low 12's if nothing else). I have a 2000 WS6 A4.

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(I just joined a group at Purdue for cars and I found out there are like 4 f-bodies that are around the 12 second mark. Some above it and some below it. Sooo... After seeing their cars you know what I want now... lol)
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stall, tires, torque arm
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Thats it?
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And good weather , also ls6 intake and remove front sway bar.
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Originally Posted by ls1muscle
stall, tires, torque arm
for low 12's???

think he might need a cam, stall and tires for that.
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Originally Posted by 02NBMFormula
for low 12's???

think he might need a cam, stall and tires for that.
Maybe maybe not, 340 RWHP with a stalled auto should be enough if he can drive (yes autos still require some skill! ). But to ensure a low 12 or 11 he'll need a cam.
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Yeah I was gonna say, I would think it should take more than that because one of the guys (11.92 @ 113) has all this:

-Jet-Hot Longtube headers
-Speed Inc 3" true duals with X-pipe, dynomax bullets, dumped at rear axle.
-Cam: TSP MS3 (237/242 .603/.609 113)
-SLP cold air induciton
-TSP induction lid
-LS6 intake manifold
-Ported throttle body
-SLP underdrive crank pulley
-Tranny: Twice rebuilt.
-Torque converter: Yank SS4000
-BMR Boxed, weld in subframe connectors
-Brakes: Brembo replacement rotors, Hawk HPS pads
-Rollmaster double timing chain, ported LS6 oil pump
-PRC gold dual valvesprings with Titanium retainers, chromemoly pushrods
-Dyno tuned by LS1 speed
-M/T 26x10.5x16 ET streets

So that's why I was thinking it would be a lot more. If I could get there with just what you guys said that would be awesome. What do you think is the minimum $$$ for getting there?
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I am considering buying a Camaro z28 and would also like to know what I will need to beat my dads 12.40's dodge challenger. I dont want to put in nitrous or put on slicks tho and Want to spend less than a grand and also want to keep stock exhaust.
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You should definately be able to get low 12's out of it, with those mods I just listed, it's all in the 60ft. And your DA is going to have an effect on how strong your car is.

Here's 1 example, https://ls1tech.com/forums/11-second-club/591859-new-best-bolton-car.html
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Originally Posted by silent101
I am considering buying a Camaro z28 and would also like to know what I will need to beat my dads 12.40's dodge challenger. I dont want to put in nitrous or put on slicks tho and Want to spend less than a grand and also want to keep stock exhaust.
when are you also going to put down the crack pipe? no way in hell you can beat a 12.40 without sticky tires with only a grand and no n2o. If you do gears and get some slicks...its possible, above and beyond that..you would need a lot mroe power if your not using a sticky tire.

to the original poster, a stall, sticky tires shoudl get you pretty close...waht was the 60ft in the 11.92 run? Traction is key.
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used 150 shot kit. Less than 500$$
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Originally Posted by brad8266
used 150 shot kit. Less than 500$$

Werd, I was surprised no one posted that yet lol. But my friend's 150 kit stock TA was only cutting 12.30's with no other mods. 200 shot NX kit =11.7's+
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full boltons with a big stall and cam might get you 11s if you can hook.

you might want to reduce your race weight by 100-200 lbs.


im finding 11s difficult to get myself. something always goes wrong.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
full boltons with a big stall and cam might get you 11s if you can hook.

you might want to reduce your race weight by 100-200 lbs.


im finding 11s difficult to get myself. something always goes wrong.

Do you have a good tune? With those mods I'm very surprised by your times. gears, converter, LS6 cam, drag radials, that should be riding out pretty decent. Maybe I'm wrong :shrug:
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Well a big shot of nitrous would work, but I don't want nitrous, that isn't an option.

How would I reduce my race weight by that 200lbs?

And what would be the reasons for, and the positives and negatives of removing the front sway bar? Would it be bad on the street at all, cause this car is basically a dd still.
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Originally Posted by 1FSTZ71
Do you have a good tune? With those mods I'm very surprised by your times. gears, converter, LS6 cam, drag radials, that should be riding out pretty decent. Maybe I'm wrong :shrug:

that setup is old news. sorry.
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Originally Posted by Speedmonster185
Well a big shot of nitrous would work, but I don't want nitrous, that isn't an option.

How would I reduce my race weight by that 200lbs?

And what would be the reasons for, and the positives and negatives of removing the front sway bar? Would it be bad on the street at all, cause this car is basically a dd still.

You could reduce the race weight by removing seats, pulling out spare tire, etc etc. On the sway bar thing it help the front end of the car lift a bit more on launch helping with traction on the rear, and saves weight. It would just handle funny without it (more body roll etc, if you don't do spirited driving with it i.e. taking turns at 70+, then it wouldn't be a huge deal).
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Originally Posted by Speedmonster185
Well a big shot of nitrous would work, but I don't want nitrous, that isn't an option.

How would I reduce my race weight by that 200lbs?

And what would be the reasons for, and the positives and negatives of removing the front sway bar? Would it be bad on the street at all, cause this car is basically a dd still.


pull your seats,spare,lighter rims(slicks,skinnies). theres much more. use your search feature. lots of good info here.
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Originally Posted by Speedmonster185
How would I reduce my race weight by that 200lbs?
Take your pick.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-tech/17319-weight-reduction-list.html




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