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Old 06-04-2007, 09:58 PM
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I was talking w/ some gearheads at work and they seem to believe that a stock WS6 can't make 13's. They say at best 14.5. They say you need at least 400hp to make mid to low 13's (I would disagree as they are talking peak numbers instead of undert the curve numbers). Do the Stock WS6 cars really mid to low 13's?
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Ummm, yeah. Stock WS6s have hit 12's in the right conditions. Mid 13's with damn near a 2.5X second 60' is possible. Even with the worst 60' ever you are almost guaranteed a 13.9x in a LS1 WS6. Are these "gearheads" some old senior citizen shadetree mechanics that know nothing about fuel injection and these "new fangeled thinga-ma-bobbers" under the hood?
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Originally Posted by SweeTbone
Ummm, yeah. Stock WS6s have hit 12's in the right conditions. Mid 13's with damn near a 2.5X second 60' is possible. Even with the worst 60' ever you are almost guaranteed a 13.9x in a LS1 WS6. Are these "gearheads" some old senior citizen shadetree mechanics that know nothing about fuel injection and these "new fangeled thinga-ma-bobbers" under the hood?
I like your answer. These guys are relatively young (early 40's). One guy is an LT1 guru. He built a C10 pick up from ground up (he has pictures to prove) and put in a LT1 from a camaro. His truck hits 14.4.

Reason I ask is I took my WS6 to track for 1st time recently. Below is my time slip. I hooked up well on the below run w/ M6. Car has 65K miles and is near stock. Either I'm doing something wrong or my car sux.

60' 2.24
1/8 9.527 at 74 mph
1/4 14.693 at 96 mph
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
60' 2.24
1/8 9.527 at 74 mph
1/4 14.693 at 96 mph
You may want to look into a serious tuneup or a compression test......or both!!!
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yea they can do high 12's all you need in the driver mod and ur good lol and mayb some DR's
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
I like your answer. These guys are relatively young (early 40's). One guy is an LT1 guru. He built a C10 pick up from ground up (he has pictures to prove) and put in a LT1 from a camaro. His truck hits 14.4.

Reason I ask is I took my WS6 to track for 1st time recently. Below is my time slip. I hooked up well on the below run w/ M6. Car has 65K miles and is near stock. Either I'm doing something wrong or my car sux.

60' 2.24
1/8 9.527 at 74 mph
1/4 14.693 at 96 mph

Ouch, thats a rough time!! Are you missing shifts?? Seems like most LS1 Cars Trap at least 104's and thats low. Are you running 87 octane???
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What year is your car? I only ran one day at the track bone stock, and I did a best of 13.69 @ 104 MPH with a 2.20 60'. So that was my baseline. I had shitty *** street tires as well, some off-shoot brand. I haven't been back, but I've added Nitto 555 street (not a big improvement but better from the last set) and everything in my sig. There has got to be something wrong. What RPM are your shifting at and are you sure you're not driving a Mustang GT?
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Bone Stock 3700lbs, 90 degree heat, 13.4 @ 105.5 with a crappy 2.2 60' (stock goodyear f1s)
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Originally Posted by That_guy
yea they can do high 12's all you need in the driver mod and ur good lol and mayb some DR's
i think dr are a must to get this car in the 12's or else you'll probably just get a low 13
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Low 13 is what I hope to run. Changing spark plugs, wires, and filter this week. Will also run 93 octane instead of 89. I was shifting in 5500-6000 range. If all that doesn't help, I may look into a compression test and/or datalog software to see where I'm shifting and WOT% (It's hard to remember where you shifted when you're hauling but down a track).
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89 octane?! And shift that sucker at 6000 RPM. You stock limit is set at 6250. Get a shift light and some 93 octane gas YEAR ROUND. How long you been running 89 octane? Minimum is 91, which most people still avoid if 93 is available in your area.
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My stock LT1 was 13.89@100.. you should get that mid 13 easily in a LS1..
Just work on hooking it off the line and your shifts..and you will be money.
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Bone stock with all weather tires - 13.5 @ 105.

And it only put down 296 on the dyno - was running rich.
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Bone stock in my brother's 01 WS6 I ran a 13.4@106.7mph with a 2.0x 60'.
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Be careful with your stock 10 bolt. The drag strip is the best place to mess it up and it will happen to a stock WS6.
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Bone stock in my '99 TA I went 13.6@104 with a terrible 60'
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Wow, lol, my LT1 with just intake and exhaust ran a second faster
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my dads stock Ws6 that i drove went 13.10 at 110 w/ 2.07 60 foot in 80 degree weather! it would have went 12.90's but i hurt the tranny on the 13.10 pass and decided to go home before i really broke it!

and BTW those guys are not very smart and need to do some research!!
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Could a high gear ratio affect his performance? Maybe he's only running a 2.73 or something. Also, what if he's got an A4? The LS-1 F-bodies are known for being able to run in the 13's off of the showroom floor with factory tires...
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With the 89 octane you were probably pulling timing not to mention your 60 times were pretty bad. You are on the right track with a tune up and some practice, but that trap speed is LOW. I'd do a compression check at least if not a dyno check if your trap speeds don't improve.



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