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Old 10-29-2007, 04:26 PM
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Ive got cut out, lid, and basically free mods. I was hoping to go for a cam as my next step, but i did a little research and found the most agressive cam i could get and still pass smog was 224/224, which i dont think will hit 400rwhp Also cant get LT's. I was just wondering if there is a way to get 400 or more rwhp in CA w/o boosting ie. spray turbo sc. Cali's smog regs suck
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just pay someone some good money to smog your car....
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are prochargers 50 state legal, for some reason I thought they were.

I would just put a 100 shot on it and call it a day.
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Even without headers, that cam adn ported heads should put you really close to 400RWHP.

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register your car in sonoma county and wave bye-bye to smog regulations
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turbo it.
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wouldnt i have to live in sonoma county to register it there? i live in sacramento btw.
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I thought you could get away with running Lt's as long as you run a catted y-pipe
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Now a days you can do anything, easiest way that comes to mind would be the TR CheatR cam setup which made 394 HP on a basically stock car. Here is the link below and you can just get the cam cheaper and not worry about the heads but that will lower the numbers some.
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...vid=3&pcid=289
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You might, there are some lt1 guys here with rather mild h/c setups that get are around there. I don't see it beyond the realm of possibility with an ls1. Best of luck and welcome!
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Originally Posted by JTH2000SS
I thought you could get away with running Lt's as long as you run a catted y-pipe
No LT headers are pretty much 50 state illegal b/c they move the cats from there original location. It just sucks b/c cali is ALOT more strict with it, where as in most other states you can get away with it as long as there are cats there.
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give lloyd elliot a call, he does h/c and custom grinds cams so maybe he can set you up, a lot of his setups are in the 400rwhp range
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whats smog???????????
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(not trying to hijack da thread)well when i take my car for smog to a buddy of mines he jus checks for exahust emissions and pops my hood to look at the catalyst sticker! i know he does not look under the car, he jus mainly checks to see if i pass the emissions test through the exhaust! do u guys think i can get away with running LT's
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Run H/C, LT's with a catted Y, then get it tuned to run E85 when it gets tuned.
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or just get a turbo....
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I think STS is legal on our cars. I don't know if I'm sold on them yet, but that may be an option. I was going to mention the cheater H/C package through TR too.

If you want to be 100% compliant in Cali', you pretty much can't touch anything in the emissions system or connected to it. If you get pulled over for LTs you could get a fine of up to $250 if you run with cats' and maybe more if the officer is sharp and in a bad mood.

I think Vortech makes a S/C kit for our cars, with their aftercooler, which will make 400+ RWHP and is CARB legal. Try looking into that too.
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Originally Posted by food nd cars
Ive got cut out, lid, and basically free mods. I was hoping to go for a cam as my next step, but i did a little research and found the most agressive cam i could get and still pass smog was 224/224, which i dont think will hit 400rwhp Also cant get LT's. I was just wondering if there is a way to get 400 or more rwhp in CA w/o boosting ie. spray turbo sc. Cali's smog regs suck
Your only options to make 400RWHP without a power adder would be to just go ahead and go with a bigger cam, and dish out the extra cash and find someone to "pass" you.

You're pretty much stuck with the power you'll make with a 224/224 cam out here. Some (very few) have passed with a 226, but it requires a good tune, and some luck IMO. And long tubes are a must If you want to get anywhere near there.

On the bright side, If you still do decide to keep it smog legal, a 224/224 will still make good power
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You can get a 224 cam and afr 205 heads and have over 400hp and still pass smog. But i say screw smog
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i need to find a new smog friend..



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