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Old 09-15-2009, 04:45 PM
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so after i fill up the tank my car stumbles for about 20 miles, dosnt want to idle and has little power off idle. im not really "topping off", just letting the pump shut off itself. i know an obvious fix is not to fill it up all the way but id like to get this fixed befor it dies in traffic and wont restart one day.
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You probably have some water in that batch of gas....OR you have a clogged fuel filter and/or dirty fuel injectors. A clogged/dirty fuel filter will stumble ate low rpm, but will generally be ok after that all the way to WOT, the fuel pressure simply oeverpowers the clog. BUt at idle and low rpm the fuel pressure is low and it'll stumble.

I'd run that tank out, go on the highway for a 2 hour drive. Run it down to "E", then fill it back to halfway and see if its back to normal. Also, put an entire can of Sea Foam into that new half tank of gas and run it through to clean the injectors. If its been awhile since you changed the filter, do it after you run that new half tank out, its very cheap and it takes 3 minutes to change it.

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its actually a pretty consistent problem, almost every time i fill up. my air filter could probably use a cleaning or replacement but its defiantly not to that extent. as for the fuel filter and injectors, i doubt it as it only happens the first 20 or so miles after each fill up. im thinking fuel pump but why would it be intermittent after a fill up like that?
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fuel cap maybe?
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Originally Posted by DaveH71
fuel cap maybe?
^^^This is a good one.....but I beleive with a vacuum problem from a bad cap you get an SES light right away.

Maybe try a friends gas cap to see if it fixes the problem next time.

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maybe the leak is so small it just takes it awile to build up vaccum and it subsides after the 20 or so miles like you explained. Hell its only a couple bucks anyway, might as well try it.
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fuel cap may be it,,, havnt thought of that. thanks for the idea guys
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Originally Posted by DaveH71
fuel cap maybe?
I don't think it's the gas cap.
I've driven home from a gas station(20 miles away) more than once with my gas cap loose and the car ran fine, but it did throw a code.

Do you always get gas at the same gas station? If you do try getting it from a different gas station.
The Sea Foam is also a good idea to!

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Probably fuel filter.
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i usually use different stations, but i try to stick with either BP or SHELL. if it were a fuel filter wouldnt it do it all the time?
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Originally Posted by jimmyducati
i usually use different stations, but i try to stick with either BP or SHELL. if it were a fuel filter wouldnt it do it all the time?
The most common symptom of a dirty fuel filter is the engine struggling and stumbling at idle and at low rpm casual acceleration.

Did you try a new cap?

Did you search for codes for free at the auto parts store?


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Immediately after fill your tank pressure is at atmospheric
because the EVAP has not drawn it down. But you'd think
that cold starts would be the same deal with the vacuum
bled out (eventually). But cold starts have so much
enrichment and fast idle, that maybe it's just invisible.
The tank pressure adds / subtracts from regulator and
pump pressure I expect, modifying delivery. So would
fuel level I expect, if the pump is being challenged to
deliver any intake pressure change probably goes
right to the output (regulator should chop it off, but
if your pump puts out less than regulator pressure that
would possibly be a big deal). Hard to say which of
these conjectures, if any, are at play here.

The PCM tries to trim all this out but can't track it
across the fill-up, not right away.



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