shorty's vs. long tubes?? which is better!?!
Long tubes by a mile are better than shorties. But if your in CA, shorties are the only legal way to go. As you can see, the laws still don't prevent people like myself and jrp from buying illegal headers 
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A lot of people have had really good results with MAC's and other midlength headers. I had MAC's but switched to Jet Hots and like them much better. They sound and feel different. As far as ground clearace... I didnt loose any switching to the long tubes vice the MAC's.
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I have never had long tubes, i'm going on word of mouth. My buddy has long tubes and HAL QA1 set up and he messed up his headers one time on a hill pulling out of somewhere.
I have had good luck with midlength myself. 22 dyno proven hp out of my headers.
I have had good luck with midlength myself. 22 dyno proven hp out of my headers.
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Long tubes by a mile are better than shorties. But if your in CA, shorties are the only legal way to go. As you can see, the laws still don't prevent people like myself and jrp from buying illegal headers
this **** smog regime wont stop us 
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Originally Posted by hpponline.net
well my car is lowered so if i did get longtubes i would prbably screw them up somehow, espically where i live. who makes good midlenghts??
similar and both have pretty good reputations. But the
clearance problems are probably no different, the fat
Y-pipe that goes with any mid- or long tube header
is going to be a ground clearance issue. You might be
better off with long tubes that have a reputation for
tucking up nice, than a mid-length. Floorboard - 3"
is floorboard - 3".
i had mac headers,they are a good set of headers(not great)i dynoed 424.1hp 408tq with them on a head and camed car. i switched to kooks,i like them way better. mac headers will do fine but if you want the most power from the car go with LT's.