New intake at SEMA: MSD Airforce
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Fast that they 'debuted' them in November at SEMA, and will be bringing them to the market in the spring is a pretty short time frame, but we're all just really impatient.
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Because you think SOMEONE would have said "hey guys we've got them coming in xx days" and that hasn't happened. At all. Not a peep.
MSD has completely dropped the ball on this if you ask me. Whoever is in charge of advertising and "stoking the flames" to try to generate SOME kind of interest needs to be shown the door. They've done absolutely nothing to drum up any interest.
I'm sorry man. It just completely turns me off. Lord knows when you talk to anyone there the personality you speak with has no enthusiasm about the product and is as dry as a crouton.
Makes me wonder how the tech support line will be if you ever have an issue.
MSD has completely dropped the ball on this if you ask me. Whoever is in charge of advertising and "stoking the flames" to try to generate SOME kind of interest needs to be shown the door. They've done absolutely nothing to drum up any interest.
I'm sorry man. It just completely turns me off. Lord knows when you talk to anyone there the personality you speak with has no enthusiasm about the product and is as dry as a crouton.
Makes me wonder how the tech support line will be if you ever have an issue.
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Because you think SOMEONE would have said "hey guys we've got them coming in xx days" and that hasn't happened. At all. Not a peep.
MSD has completely dropped the ball on this if you ask me. Whoever is in charge of advertising and "stoking the flames" to try to generate SOME kind of interest needs to be shown the door. They've done absolutely nothing to drum up any interest.
I'm sorry man. It just completely turns me off. Lord knows when you talk to anyone there the personality you speak with has no enthusiasm about the product and is as dry as a crouton.
Makes me wonder how the tech support line will be if you ever have an issue.
MSD has completely dropped the ball on this if you ask me. Whoever is in charge of advertising and "stoking the flames" to try to generate SOME kind of interest needs to be shown the door. They've done absolutely nothing to drum up any interest.
I'm sorry man. It just completely turns me off. Lord knows when you talk to anyone there the personality you speak with has no enthusiasm about the product and is as dry as a crouton.
Makes me wonder how the tech support line will be if you ever have an issue.
Well, I can't speak for their marketing or customer service teams... but I'd rather a company not say anything when it's not available yet, then pimp the hell out of it and you can't get it. It will be interesting to see what happens once the dealers get their hands on it and it starts hitting the consumers cars. Hopefully it lives up to the expectations I have of it. Heck, I've already gotten a deposit on my FAST 90mm, so once I do my writeup on the MSD, the FAST will be gone. I'm hoping I don't regret that, but from everything I've been led to believe, I think I'll be very happy.
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Well, I can't speak for their marketing or customer service teams... but I'd rather a company not say anything when it's not available yet, then pimp the hell out of it and you can't get it. It will be interesting to see what happens once the dealers get their hands on it and it starts hitting the consumers cars. Hopefully it lives up to the expectations I have of it. Heck, I've already gotten a deposit on my FAST 90mm, so once I do my writeup on the MSD, the FAST will be gone. I'm hoping I don't regret that, but from everything I've been led to believe, I think I'll be very happy.
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I agree with us being impatient but it's been a few months since these were being shown and they had a product on display at the shows so I don't think we're being unreasonable at this point.
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Fwiw... bangshift did a 48 hour corvette build.. I noticed the valve covers said lingenfelter and it's got the intake on it.. could this be the test motor??? Lol
http://bangshift.com/bangshiftapex/c...y-do-it-again/
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It did seem odd that MSD had the expertise to develop this intake but it really doesn't matter to me. I really thought the FAST was as good as it could be other than their truck intake which is not an option due to it's height.
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I just wish, like all others here, that there were answers at the very least.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a FAST intake, but I'd hate to spend the money on a FAST now only to find out for the same price, you can get another 10hp with that intake.
Also, what really impressed me after just watching their press video, is how sturdy the intake looks. I've heard the FAST intakes are a bit flimsy, but the MSD looks very sturdy. Plus, the intake has nice looking gaskets around the ports, which looks like it'll make vacuum leaks impossible on it.
I do like the FAST style a little more, and its reputation over the years makes it seem like a no-brainer, but this MSD intake does still have some appeal.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a FAST intake, but I'd hate to spend the money on a FAST now only to find out for the same price, you can get another 10hp with that intake.
Also, what really impressed me after just watching their press video, is how sturdy the intake looks. I've heard the FAST intakes are a bit flimsy, but the MSD looks very sturdy. Plus, the intake has nice looking gaskets around the ports, which looks like it'll make vacuum leaks impossible on it.
I do like the FAST style a little more, and its reputation over the years makes it seem like a no-brainer, but this MSD intake does still have some appeal.
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I just wish, like all others here, that there were answers at the very least.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a FAST intake, but I'd hate to spend the money on a FAST now only to find out for the same price, you can get another 10hp with that intake.
Also, what really impressed me after just watching their press video, is how sturdy the intake looks. I've heard the FAST intakes are a bit flimsy, but the MSD looks very sturdy. Plus, the intake has nice looking gaskets around the ports, which looks like it'll make vacuum leaks impossible on it.
I do like the FAST style a little more, and its reputation over the years makes it seem like a no-brainer, but this MSD intake does still have some appeal.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a FAST intake, but I'd hate to spend the money on a FAST now only to find out for the same price, you can get another 10hp with that intake.
Also, what really impressed me after just watching their press video, is how sturdy the intake looks. I've heard the FAST intakes are a bit flimsy, but the MSD looks very sturdy. Plus, the intake has nice looking gaskets around the ports, which looks like it'll make vacuum leaks impossible on it.
I do like the FAST style a little more, and its reputation over the years makes it seem like a no-brainer, but this MSD intake does still have some appeal.
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I'm excited to finally see what this thing will do. However as far as build quality between the 2 goes The fast 102 is light years better than a 90/92. The assembly is about 5 lbs heavier which is a lot when talking plastic. The base of a 92 will flex with a push of the hand....no way that's happening to a 102. Porting my buddies 92 I was really scared of punching a hole in it. The 102 I took a Dremel to for hours and never worried. I haven't held an msd but the 102 fast is good for big boost and is much stronger than the older ones.
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I'm sure the quality of the MSD intake will be just as good or better than the FAST. MSD had the advantage of there already being a premium LSx intake on the market that they could pull info from and work on bettering an already great intake. Like I've been saying over and over in this thread, MSD didn't go into this venture to be equal with FAST; they did all of this to put out a better product that will yield better results across the board. I'm glad it looks like this is finally goint to happen and we are about to have a tangible product to see and feel and do our own independent testing with.
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It was like Christmas when I got home from work today.... I didn't expect it, but this was waiting for me:
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It looks great, feels really solid, and I like that it's bolted top to bottom in the middle with 3 bolts, so I have no concerns about it holding boost.
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Take a look at the bottom of the intake, they made certain it would fit over the factory valley cover bolts.... nice touch. Look at all that reinforcement... this intake is solid.
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/generation-iii-external-engine/493197d1427411937-new-intake-sema-msd-airforce-20150326_162240.jpg)
I'm going out of town tomorrow morning, and won't be back till Monday night, but I'll be doing a writeup about it as soon as I get back.
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/generation-iii-external-engine/493195d1427411897-new-intake-sema-msd-airforce-20150326_161652.jpg)
It looks great, feels really solid, and I like that it's bolted top to bottom in the middle with 3 bolts, so I have no concerns about it holding boost.
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/generation-iii-external-engine/493196d1427411918-new-intake-sema-msd-airforce-20150326_162112.jpg)
Take a look at the bottom of the intake, they made certain it would fit over the factory valley cover bolts.... nice touch. Look at all that reinforcement... this intake is solid.
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/generation-iii-external-engine/493197d1427411937-new-intake-sema-msd-airforce-20150326_162240.jpg)
I'm going out of town tomorrow morning, and won't be back till Monday night, but I'll be doing a writeup about it as soon as I get back.