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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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No idea. I'm sure some of the vendors on here were given one of these intakes for testing purposes, but I guess I could be wrong. Just thinking about it from a business standpoint, once I had the product perfected and ready to start mass producing, I'd be giving some of the top, most well known and respected, LSx vendors one of these intakes so that some independent testing could be done and thrown up on boards like LS1tech, FB, etc. It would behoove MSD to do this if their product stacks up. I'm sure that it does, as no company is going to spend all that money and put all the effort into producing something that's sub par and won't sell. I know places like Texas Speed, Tick Performance, Vengeance Racing, Tony Mamo, Speed Inc., Brian Tooley, etc. would love to get their hands on one of them and test and see how this product stacks up to the competition. Too bad GMHTP isn't still around because having them do some testing between a LS6 intake, FAST 92mm, FAST 102mm, and this new MSD Atomic intake would have been a very nice piece.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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This was mentioned in post 40. It's posted on MSD's website.

I'd like to know all the details of this test and what the other manifold was.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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I would too. If I was in charge of this, I would have supplied several different well know LSx shops with one of these intakes for the sole purpose of testing it against the same intakes they will be competing against in the marketplace. From a business stand point, it only makes sense to do that. That way, you have multiple tests from multiple different sources that show your product stacks up and is better than the competition. I'm sure there would be plenty of LSx shops that would be more than happy to conduct these tests. It would not only help MSD, but these shops as well, because they would eventually be selling them.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
This was mentioned in post 40. It's posted on MSD's website.

I'd like to know all the details of this test and what the other manifold was.
I would have liked to see them test it against the stock intake. That way it's a known quantity and then it could be compared to all other intakes by extrapolation. For legal reasons they can't/won't disclose what competitor's intake it was...although rumor is that it was a FAST 102 LS7.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Lingenfelter is an independent shop... Why wouldn't THEY (not MSD) post up what intake it was against? They wouldn't face any legal ramifications for simply posting RESULTS.

I personally would like to see Ron @ Vengeance and Mike @ New Era get a hold of this and test it.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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How in the **** is there going to be any legal issues? The intakes they would be testing against are intakes sold in the marketplace, so I don't see how anyone could get in trouble for posting real world results. Who gives a **** what shop it is as long as it's honest **** being done with no agendas behind it.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
How in the **** is there going to be any legal issues? The intakes they would be testing against are intakes sold in the marketplace, so I don't see how anyone could get in trouble for posting real world results. Who gives a **** what shop it is as long as it's honest **** being done with no agendas behind it.

You would be surprised what happens in a legal arena. Making statements like that could be considered damaging to a competitors product, and they could go after them to force them to stop saying that they dispute the claims and that those claims hurt the sales of their product.

Look at commercials where anyone makes claims, they won't ever mention the competition due to legal concerns.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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That's just stupid in my book. If your product is any good, you shouldn't be affraid of it being tested against the competition. As long as the testing is done in an ethical manner, what does it matter??? Pretty sure I could go out there and test anything from wax to headers and come up with my own findings/report and express what my findings/experience was withou fear of anyone saying **** about it.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
That's just stupid in my book. If your product is any good, you shouldn't be affraid of it being tested against the competition. As long as the testing is done in an ethical manner, what does it matter??? Pretty sure I could go out there and test anything from wax to headers and come up with my own findings/report and express what my findings/experience was withou fear of anyone saying **** about it.
Yes, but if you own a shop that sells either, or both, ethics go out the window and you get scrutinized for motive and integrity...
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TT427

Yes, but if you own a shop that sells either, or both, ethics go out the window and you get scrutinized for motive and integrity...
Yeah, I guess I get that, but if you are going to sell both, wouldn't you think it would be fair and equal? I get what you are saying though. I just wish shops and people would be ethical and work toward giving the LSx population the anwers we are looking for.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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I think the results will be out eventually. People are going to buy it. SOMEONE is going to do back to back testing, tuning included. It's gonna happen.
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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I would also like to see some real numbers compared to fast intakes on h/c/I set ups and would like to know what after market rails will work with this intake iv got holley efi rails
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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if nothing else, i look forward to classifieds full of $600-$700 fast set ups. lol
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Originally Posted by Sail Hatan
if nothing else, i look forward to classifieds full of $600-$700 fast set ups. lol
My Vengeance ported fast will be available. PM me if you are interested.
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sail Hatan
if nothing else, i look forward to classifieds full of $600-$700 fast set ups. lol
Which should hopefully push the price of LS6 intakes back into the $3-350 range.
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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My Vengeance ported fast will be available. PM me if you are interested.
I should have money by the time you have one....
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ovaboost
I would also like to see some real numbers compared to fast intakes on h/c/I set ups and would like to know what after market rails will work with this intake iv got holley efi rails
The MSD intakes have the factory injector angle. Isnt the holley straight?
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fry_
Which should hopefully push the price of LS6 intakes back into the $3-350 range.
What the heck are they going for "now?" When I yank mine I fully expected to get 350/375 SHIPPED

Originally Posted by ovaboost
I would also like to see some real numbers compared to fast intakes on h/c/I set ups and would like to know what after market rails will work with this intake iv got holley efi rails
They say stock, aftermarket, and MSD rails work. I'm more curious WHICH stock rails... I'd imagine LS3 rails. There really isn't a cutout spot in the middle that I see like on the Fast 92 for the fuel damper for the stock ls1/6 rails.

Which also makes me ask which injectors will work. I'm a big fan of the white Bosch 3's myself... Identical to stock LS1 injectors, but 42#
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham

What the heck are they going for "now?" When I yank mine I fully expected to get 350/375 SHIPPED
I agree. $375 for the LS6 intake and TB is a good deal for both parties.
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
If this was in fact against a ported FAST from an out of the box MSD manifold with an MSRP of $950, I'd be surprised if someone could even get $700 for a ported FAST. Although, I don't really see the LS6 manifolds taking much of a hit.
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