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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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I'm curious too which fuel rails will work with this intake.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
I'm curious too which fuel rails will work with this intake.
Any fuel rail that fits a factory intake. The injectors are at the factory angle.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Any fuel rail that fits a factory intake. The injectors are at the factory angle.
You're not taking into account the fuel damper on LS1/6 fuel rails...

So if venture to say LS3/7 and aftermarket rails.
This begs the question what INJECTORS will work then... Certainly not stock LS1/6... Would be nice if a rep from MSD would step in here.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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So you're saying the injectors I'm running now will not work? No way to adapt them to fit?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
So you're saying the injectors I'm running now will not work? No way to adapt them to fit?
That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I'd LOVE to know which injectors fit the bungs. What the spacing is with the fuel rail. It might be as simple as an oring change, using stock sized (not flow, physical size) injectors with the ls3 rail.

It might require the short injectors... I don't know. I know I DO NOT want to run cups or spacers. Like the Fast... I would have used Nasty Performance rails so I could utilize my Bosch 3's on a Fast 102.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Where is MSD??? Why hasn't anyone from the company came in here to clarify some of this?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I'd LOVE to know which injectors fit the bungs. What the spacing is with the fuel rail. It might be as simple as an oring change, using stock sized (not flow, physical size) injectors with the ls3 rail.

It might require the short injectors... I don't know. I know I DO NOT want to run cups or spacers. Like the Fast... I would have used Nasty Performance rails so I could utilize my Bosch 3's on a Fast 102.
Not trying to sway one way or the other but why not? Just curious? I run fic top spacers on my ls3s with the rail. No problems, and you can't even tell they're there unless you really know what to look for.

The bottom spacers now I would never run
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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We will have rails to fit all different size injectors. Tall LS1 mid LS2 short LS3/7. Soon as we can get ahold of one we will build rails for it. If you get one let us know.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
We will have rails to fit all different size injectors. Tall LS1 mid LS2 short LS3/7. Soon as we can get ahold of one we will build rails for it. If you get one let us know.
That's great news. It would behoove MSD to give you guys one so you could get to work on all the different rail options.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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My common sense tells me it should fit with factory style injectors. So if you had to use ls2 rails your injectors should fit fine. If I remember right you would need ls2 rails?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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I thought I read that somewhere too that the LS2 rails would work.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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Well, I have both a factory rail, as well as aftermarket rails and will see which fits, once I get an intake.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 03:01 PM
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Any idea when that may be?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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I think I'm the only one here that cares about this particular part of the intake, but it looks like it has a port for the EGR as well!!! I highly doubt they will pay the money to get it CARB approved for California but since it has the port for the EGR, people in California will still have a much easier time getting it smogged.

That is huge for me. If they DID get it California CARB approved I would ditch my BBK for one in a heartbeat given it provides as much or more flow than the FAST.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 03:32 PM
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What's EGR
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Any idea when that may be?
I called MSD last week, the rep said mid January - February.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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As long as I can get one while the car is down, I'm okay with that. Just as long as it's ready for spring.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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Can't believe this hasn't been posted in this thread yet lol.


You will need ls2 rails or the MSD rails.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Can't believe this hasn't been posted in this thread yet lol.

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You will need ls2 rails or the MSD rails.
It was posted on the first page in post 18.

Originally Posted by Fourth-Gen Man
I think I'm the only one here that cares about this particular part of the intake, but it looks like it has a port for the EGR as well!!! I highly doubt they will pay the money to get it CARB approved for California but since it has the port for the EGR, people in California will still have a much easier time getting it smogged.

That is huge for me. If they DID get it California CARB approved I would ditch my BBK for one in a heartbeat given it provides as much or more flow than the FAST.
If you watched the video you'd know they said the CARB OE# is pending.

I'm also not sure why everyone is so eager to spend $200+ on aftermarket fuel rails when you can buy new crate motor take off LS3 fuel rails from CBM's Ebay store for $140. What hp level do you have to get to for stock type fuel rails to become a restriction?
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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140 for a fuel rail? No thanks.

But I'll gladly use an LS3 rail. Guessing it needs that type injector as well
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