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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 03:27 PM
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I'd like to get one of these intakes sometime in January, but need to know that I'm not going to run into fitment issues, and that my Accel 44lb/hr injectors are going to fit.

I'm also curious if any of the vendors will sell a complete kit, which includes the intake and the necessary fuel rails.
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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It shows what they fit on the Jegs page.

http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD+Ignition/121/2702/10002/-1
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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Anyone else notice the date shipped on the Jegs page changed to Dec 5th?
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Anyone else notice the date shipped on the Jegs page changed to Dec 5th?
And like you had said in that one post, bet it gets pushed back even further. Too bad they didn't give you one at SEMA.
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
And like you had said in that one post, bet it gets pushed back even further. Too bad they didn't give you one at SEMA.
I've asked... explaining how big this group is, as well as a facebook page I co-run and they said they literally only have a few prototypes right now, but would get back to me.

Trust me, I'm eager to get my hands on one and show you guys how it fits in an f-body, as well as injector fitment etc. I'm just waiting for one.
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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Cool. I know you'll keep us updated. Guess I'll just sit tight for now.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 04:36 AM
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I'd literally take it with me to Geoff's and swap it on the dyno. Then post ACTUAL gains, how and where the VE tables needed tweaking and all.

IF I could get one ahead of time...
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I'd literally take it with me to Geoff's and swap it on the dyno. Then post ACTUAL gains, how and where the VE tables needed tweaking and all.

IF I could get one ahead of time...
Hey, no cutting in line... I'm already offering that.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:14 AM
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Yeah, get in line. I called 2nd dibs on one. Back to back results on my combo with a LS6 intake. Let's see what this thing will do on a well modded NA LS1!
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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subscribed, glad i haven't made an intake purchase yet.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Holy hell I want one. Yep.

I also want to hear what Tony Mamo thinks of them. There's no way he hasn't seen or heard of them yet.
Tony Mamo, while excited about the prospects of a better intake, is simply waiting for more information to be released.

I still cringe thinking of the Holley intake of yesteryear that was suppose to be the next best thing since sliced bread and never made it to market.

I have two large looming questions assuming it does make it to market......will it fit the 90% crowd.....IE all the F-Body and C5/C6 Corvettes......and is a mass produced production piece really better than the FAST or at the very least does it have the potential to be better in ported trim versus a FAST in ported trim?

I'm not holding my breath as I see alot of companies (my former employer included) release information on a new product at a show too early (excited to start promoting it) and while everyone's best intentions might have been there, stuff comes up that's unexpected in the ninth hour causing delays and/or potential issues with the fitment or performance of the product.

I will certainly have a look at one at the PRI show.....a very close look....and will report anything I hear or see of significance shortly after but I would suggest you guys hope for the best and just take a wait and see approach.

On a positive note, if it really is as good as some of the hype.....that would be just plain awesome for the LS platform in general and I'm sure with further tweaking the intake could be made to flow and perform even better.

Im excited about it but sitting on the sidelines till more of my major concerns are answered (really answered with zero speculation involved).

I suspect I will have one on the dyno shortly after they are made available....that goes without saying as well.



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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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And let me be the first to throw my hat in the ring for a ported version of yours.

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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by z-camaro
The one on the LT1 vette looks great. I wonder if they are built like the FAST where they have a separate top shell and base? If so, those running aftermarket fuel rails could posaibly use the LT1 top shell.
I don't think that would work, the valve order on the LT1 was swapped. The LS has the forwardmost valve on the driver's side head as the intake valve, whereas the LT1 has the exhaust valve there. So with the different runner arrangement, the top wouldn't fit. However, if I'm wrong, I'd be jumping on that boat as I ditched my stock LS3 rails for Holley rails.

Also, I noticed they displayed that manifold with high mounted MSD coils (that sit higher than the manifold). If we have a member on this board with that coil setup, and it fits under the cowl of an Fbody, then we should have our answer as to whether or not this manifold will fit. No?

They also state there are three MAP sensor locations and has a provision for running a cable TB, good news for swaps (LT1->LS, LS1->LS3, etc.).

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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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They are a two piece intake. Look at the one picture where the top shell is removed.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
They are a two piece intake. Look at the one picture where the top shell is removed.
I understand that, but if the valves are switched, so are the ports, and if the ports are switched, so are the runners. Thus the detents or contours in the LT1 upper lid wont line up with the runners in the LS lower. However, the contours in the upper may have enough space to clear the mismatch.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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Also, upon further inspection of the pictures of the LT and LS versions side-by-side, the tops look to be nothing alike (in terms of perimeter shape, runner locations, lack of injector bungs in the LT, etc.).
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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I would assume the two to be completely different since the LS and LT are so different.
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Here is a picture for reference from one of the members on here. (comparing the coil mount to the MSD manifold).
Attached Thumbnails New intake at SEMA: MSD Airforce-bash212.jpg   New intake at SEMA: MSD Airforce-msd-atomic-ar-force000.jpg  
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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So any ideas on when some numbers will be posted by anybody? This shouldn't take too long get i wouldn't think anyway.
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