Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Why run a big cam in a daily driver?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:13 AM
  #61  
Bruser's LS1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Garland, TX/Jacksonville, FL
Default

Originally Posted by VIPERBLUELX
No, but a properly spec'd cam for the combo will always run better than sticking the biggest cam that will clear in a car with stock heads like I see a lot doing. I had that mindset once too though.
I agree with this quote. Its fun having having my set up and beating guys with mid/huge cams
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:16 AM
  #62  
germeezy1's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
From: Seattle area
Default

Originally Posted by Bruser's LS1
I agree with this quote. Its fun having having my set up and beating guys with mid/huge cams
Me too, especially on stock head stock intake cars.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:36 AM
  #63  
Bruser's LS1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Garland, TX/Jacksonville, FL
Default

Don't get me wrong. Nothing sounds better then hearing a large cam idling at the light. But for a DD on the street, I'd prefer my set up. I wouldn't go bigger for the street, but rather find the right comb. Just my .02
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:55 AM
  #64  
troopercar's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 633
Likes: 2
From: Sarasota, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Bruser's LS1
I agree with this quote. Its fun having having my set up and beating guys with mid/huge cams
you have timeslips?
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:50 AM
  #65  
bobby1's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Default

i can say this i have had the stock cam it was ok, then i've upgraded to a hot cam that was better and then a ls1 speed cam 595-609 on a 111 lsa later upgraded to my current lg xx cam i can say its the best cam i've had i currently have slicks and skinnys on the street with 456 gears it pulls good on the street with no problem my nx project is getting a built motor that way i can rev it all the way through the band and i plan on getting much bigger cam i really don't think my cam is that big but thats me. i think if if the tune is right on and the proper setup should be no problem i wish more shops would not steer people away from bigger cams thinking they are too big i've gone through all these cams because i listened to the shops. i almost listen to the shops when i got my dana 60 they said i should get a tru trac posi becuase anything else is too much for street driving at the last minute i ordered a locker but now i wish i had gotten a spool and saved weight and money and added more strength. especially since i want to pull off abs
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:27 PM
  #66  
Bruser's LS1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Garland, TX/Jacksonville, FL
Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
you have timeslips?
Nope. My car will not be seeing a strip until a 9inch or 12bolt is installed. Until then, its from a roll racing.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:41 PM
  #67  
troopercar's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 633
Likes: 2
From: Sarasota, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Bruser's LS1
Nope. My car will not be seeing a strip until a 9inch or 12bolt is installed. Until then, its from a roll racing.
So then we'll see if you beat the guys with big cams? When my car is done in a couple of weeks I'll post vids and slips. Think you'll be faster?
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 04:02 PM
  #68  
Bruser's LS1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Garland, TX/Jacksonville, FL
Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
So then we'll see if you beat the guys with big cams? When my car is done in a couple of weeks I'll post vids and slips. Think you'll be faster?
Prob not, but not here to say I'm the fastest or slowest. Just stating my point and dropping my .02 in the bucket.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:22 PM
  #69  
chrs1313's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 13
Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
So then we'll see if you beat the guys with big cams? When my car is done in a couple of weeks I'll post vids and slips. Think you'll be faster?
you think your BIG cam will be faster than me...

I dont think so...so quit running your mouth...

someone is always faster
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:24 PM
  #70  
chrs1313's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 13
Default

what times did you run?

Originally Posted by lemons12
i drive anywhere between 30-60 miles day.. soon to be more cause i got a job a little further away..

as far as just saying it doesnt both me.. when i drive, say to the track (1 1/2hours)... yea it gets old.. but i have took trips in my buddies 228 car also.. and it gets just as annoying.. mine is quieter than his on the inside, so his gets old even faster than mine....

it doesnt both me one bit to drive mine every day.. as long as im not in it for a full 2 hours at a time.. i like diving in the city more than highway drives...

i would NEVER trade my cam just because of "driveability".. wouldnt want it to affect my times at the strip..

it would DEFINITELY bother me if my track times were what they are, but as long as im running the times, i love it!
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:30 PM
  #71  
maggiemike's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by chrs1313
you think your BIG cam will be faster than me...

I dont think so...so quit running your mouth...

someone is always faster
chris i gotta figure out how to pickup the 5.5 tenths I need to match your stock internals time lol. i figure 1-2 tenths from the ram-air intake (i destroyed it bottoming out so I didn't get to run it at the track). that still leaves at least 3.5 tenths. i have mid-lengths, that's gonna hurt me a little bit. i did just make some adjustments to the tune that I think might pickup another tenth. still 2.5 tenths, maybe some more weight reduction, but really i need to nail some sick 60fts, haven't broken 1.75 on the motor, although i think i figured out why. don't think the car was going right into PE mode off the line.

oh well, as far as cams go, i've heard a lot of good things about the ms3, although i think something in the 230 range is solid too. is it just me or does it seem like there aren't too many cams in the mid 230 range? seems like they skip from 228 to 238 plus?
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:48 PM
  #72  
chrs1313's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 13
Default

pm me your setup, and what times & DA you ran in and we will figure it out...

Originally Posted by maggiemike
chris i gotta figure out how to pickup the 5.5 tenths I need to match your stock internals time lol. i figure 1-2 tenths from the ram-air intake (i destroyed it bottoming out so I didn't get to run it at the track). that still leaves at least 3.5 tenths. i have mid-lengths, that's gonna hurt me a little bit. i did just make some adjustments to the tune that I think might pickup another tenth. still 2.5 tenths, maybe some more weight reduction, but really i need to nail some sick 60fts, haven't broken 1.75 on the motor, although i think i figured out why. don't think the car was going right into PE mode off the line.

oh well, as far as cams go, i've heard a lot of good things about the ms3, although i think something in the 230 range is solid too. is it just me or does it seem like there aren't too many cams in the mid 230 range? seems like they skip from 228 to 238 plus?
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:16 PM
  #73  
66deuce's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
From: Goshen,In.
Default

interesting replies and opinions in this thread..what it comes down to is personal preference..for me personally i would give up some HP for better gas mileage and drivability..and longevity..
sorry,but a big cam is not going to drive like stock or near stock..a good tuner can tame it somewhat and make it more drivable at part throttle...but there will be no mistaking you have a healthy cam in there..
that being said a properly speced cam,along with the supporting parts,will give you the drivability of a "smaller cam" and power of some of the "donkey dick" cams out there..
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:29 PM
  #74  
blown03mustang's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
From: Charleston, SC
Default

Originally Posted by chrs1313
you think your BIG cam will be faster than me...

I dont think so...so quit running your mouth...

someone is always faster
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
  #75  
chrs1313's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 13
Default

Originally Posted by blown03mustang

Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:07 PM
  #76  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Originally Posted by chrs1313
what times did you run?
87 degrees.. it absolutely sucked this night...

7.5@90.. that was not tuned for my gears or my intake..

my buddy ran a 7.7@89 that night... went back about 2 months or so later and ran a 7.4@93...

take it for what its worth.. next weekend im expecting a 6.9@96ish
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:11 PM
  #77  
tatasta's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: Nevada
Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
So then we'll see if you beat the guys with big cams? When my car is done in a couple of weeks I'll post vids and slips. Think you'll be faster?
omfg!!

Get over yourself "Speedracer" lol. You're out of control.

You gotta quit beatin' all those old cop farts outta your seats. They're ******' you up! ....................
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:02 PM
  #78  
Redlinez's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
From: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Default

Can't compare an A4 to a 6 speed. Big difference in what cams do what. Mine absolutely rips from 5000-6600. Below that, not very impressive. Quite a few "big" cam cars have also given up their ego and run a much smaller cam only to go FASTER at the track as well.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:20 PM
  #79  
nahasapeemapetalon's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,051
Likes: 1
From: Grand Forks, North Dakota
Default

Originally Posted by 66deuce
interesting replies and opinions in this thread..what it comes down to is personal preference..for me personally i would give up some HP for better gas mileage and drivability..and longevity..
sorry,but a big cam is not going to drive like stock or near stock..a good tuner can tame it somewhat and make it more drivable at part throttle...but there will be no mistaking you have a healthy cam in there..
that being said a properly speced cam,along with the supporting parts,will give you the drivability of a "smaller cam" and power of some of the "donkey dick" cams out there..
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:43 PM
  #80  
santiago's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 987
Likes: 0
From: norcal
Default

wen i ran the stock 241 heads, g5x3,crappy leaking tpis lt headers with the stock h pipe,vararam intake and an ls1 intake manifold i went 12.5@116.
a stock zo6 couldnt touch me from a roll

bunch of cry babies in here complaining like women about driveability
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:05 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE