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Old 10-03-2010, 10:13 AM
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Just like the title says the car misfires, backfires and bucks under load and under 3000 rpm. During the first start up the car fired and idled/ ran great. The car also seems to run great whether under load or not at higher rpm ( havent taken it above probably 4500 yet) and seems to be chugging gas. Im thinking this will all be taken care of in the tune, but just wanted some other opinions. Thanks.
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oh and here is a few more details on the car. Its a cam only setup with all bolt ons minus elec water pump. I had the car previously tuned in open loop and i plan on keeping it that way and going speed density. There is no emissions related equipment on the car so that eleminates them problems. Although i did throw a maf code (p0101), but cleaned the maf and it seems to have gone away.
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Do you have another maf to try
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PREVIOUSLY TUNED is the key. . . after a cam, it's probably best to get a retune...

Did you use a similar cam to what it was tuned for? was it stock cam previously? Whats the lift/duration on the newly installed cam? What kind of power DID it put down after your tune? Did you take it to the track previously and how did it perform?
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Originally Posted by SSPerformance
Do you have another maf to try
havent tried that yet... thinking about just unplugging the maf fire it and see how that goes to see if theres any difference
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Originally Posted by Duffster
PREVIOUSLY TUNED is the key. . . after a cam, it's probably best to get a retune...

Did you use a similar cam to what it was tuned for? was it stock cam previously? Whats the lift/duration on the newly installed cam? What kind of power DID it put down after your tune? Did you take it to the track previously and how did it perform?
no track time yet and i went from stock cam to a 242/248 duration cam... so quite a differance for sure. I know before the cam install the plugs did look whiteish like it was running lean, but now it almost seems as tho this thing is dumping fuel. I had a half tank and after a put is down to E
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did you mess with the map sensor at all?
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Let the tuner work their magic first before you worry. You would be amazed at the difference.
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Originally Posted by kmracer
did you mess with the map sensor at all?
I havent tried that yet

Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
Let the tuner work their magic first before you worry. You would be amazed at the difference.
Yeah thats whay im thinking. Im getting it dyno tuned next spring, but i was thinking about sending my pcm and getting it done that way for the time being just to get her running descent.
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no, i mean during the install?

is there any vacuum leaks?
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Originally Posted by kmracer
no, i mean during the install?

is there any vacuum leaks?
oh no i didnt and i checked for vacuum leaks... as far as i can tell there are none. The car fired and ran great at first... i even took it for a put right after and it ran fairly well for a untuned big cam car, but now it seems like its getting worse. Is it possible i fouled the plugs already? Im going to pull one and look tomorrow

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Mine did this once and it ended up being the MAF. I even tried to unplug it and that didn't work. My car was already tuned for the cam. It just acted up one morning out of the blue. I had to replace the MAF and it fixed it. I even tried cleaning the old one with a cutip and rubbing alcohol.
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also check your plugs and wires, might have cracked a plug or one could be loose
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well i ran it today in my garage and its still not throwing any codes. The plugs look fine, made sure everything was plugged in and what not. Im thinking about pulling the intake and checking out the MAP sensor it feels kinda loose back there.
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Did you put bigger fuel injectors in it too? I made the mistake of installing my 42's for my fire up after cam install, the factory tune didnt like the bigger injectors..
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Originally Posted by ZachJ03
Did you put bigger fuel injectors in it too? I made the mistake of installing my 42's for my fire up after cam install, the factory tune didnt like the bigger injectors..
nope still the same injectors. I think it really is getting worse. thinking about swapping my old plugs back in and see if that does anything.
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I still want to pull the manifold and check everything over there. Maybe i do just really need a tune. I should have a mail order tune soon
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That cam is a MASSIVE difference over stock. A tune will fix ALL of that as your VE table is going to be a fair deal off. Your fuel trims are probably resetting once they get to high or low which makes it run better then worse and back again.

Granted there could still be a vacuum leak somewhere as there is always something that "could" be wrong. With heads and a 228r cam I went from 350whp and horrible street manners to 420whp and great street manners.
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i guess ill just have to see what happens when my mail order tune comes. Im hoping all goes well



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