Fast 90/92 or 102
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Fast 90/92 or 102 I've been doing a lot of research on different intakes and came to a crossroads with these 3. My buddy is wanting to trade me his fast 90 for my camaros m6 for a manual swap so nothing would come out of pocket. but if there is more gain through a 92 or 102 that would be prefered, im willing to buy a new for more hp. im up for any suggestions of other intakes too.
will too big of an intake cause any cutbacks, or you think my potential can be maxed?
Basically my setup is this: Blackwing air- intake with cold air shroud :: stock T/B :: stock ls6 intake :: A&A heads & cam :: LG Pro 2 3/4in headers w/cats :: true dual center mounted :: McCord dual electric cutouts :: Z06 Ti mufflers.
will too big of an intake cause any cutbacks, or you think my potential can be maxed?
Basically my setup is this: Blackwing air- intake with cold air shroud :: stock T/B :: stock ls6 intake :: A&A heads & cam :: LG Pro 2 3/4in headers w/cats :: true dual center mounted :: McCord dual electric cutouts :: Z06 Ti mufflers.
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My buddy would be polishin up his TB and that would be thrown in with the the deal. TB & fast90 for the m6.
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figuring from quotes of hansonsuperspeed(i could have the name all wrong. cant find the thread lol) the 102(850) w/ fuelrailkit & Xover line (250) and assuming it doesnt come with a TB (350 guesstimation)
havent researched it, but how does a general m6 tranny go for? (80k miles on it minus the new slave, not sure on any of the other parts)
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with the setup as it is i wouldnt mind spendin the little extra on the 102 if it does show some considerable gain vs the stock ls6 i got on it. and plus the 102/102 would both be new, and with the exhaust basically having a hallway to run out of i believe it would maximize flow, unless im missing something.
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Its not so much the gain and to be honest the 102 will see the biggest benefit either on a stroker or a very radical 346. The idea behind getting the 102 is its a better design and is a better candidate for porting. They designed the 102 to be more porter friendly. I am not saying the other intakes can't be ported or are very hard to port, its just that 102 just addresses the issue better. So instead of having to get the 102 the second time around, you can get it now. so when you want to up the cubes you will have one of the best intakes.
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For your setup get the cheapest FAST intake you can find. They are all very close power wise.
102/102 combo is a waste of money considering you need to buy fuel rails with it and it requires some modification to make it fit right.
102/102 combo is a waste of money considering you need to buy fuel rails with it and it requires some modification to make it fit right.
The FAST 102 is going to cost more than the 90/92 and their are fitment problems. IMO, the right way to do it is to get a LS2 water pump. Here is a really good thread about the 102.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-new-post.html
I had a 102 and sold it and went with a 92. I didn't know all the little problems and extra stuff you have to get for it. For me it wasn't worth the extra money or the headaches to run the 102. There is a reason everyone is looking for a 90/92 now. They are getting harder and harder to find.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-new-post.html
I had a 102 and sold it and went with a 92. I didn't know all the little problems and extra stuff you have to get for it. For me it wasn't worth the extra money or the headaches to run the 102. There is a reason everyone is looking for a 90/92 now. They are getting harder and harder to find.
let her eat... 102 Fast...
kind of a max effort setup though...i can see why some would not want to go this route because of the modifications...i already have an EWP and used ls2 rails...dropped right in...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-a4-346-a.html
102 Fast...kind of a max effort setup though...i can see why some would not want to go this route because of the modifications...i already have an EWP and used ls2 rails...dropped right in...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-a4-346-a.html
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decisions decisions... thanks for all the advice! as enticing as the 102 is to get i think i may settle for the best buy. fast 90 tb&intake less of a headache and money. may go sts soon but thats another story. again, thanks for all the advice!
i was considering the FAST 102, but got a killer deal on a nice FAST 92/92 combo with 42lb hr injectors....cant beat intake/TB/Injector combo for $650!!! and then i ended up selling the injectors for $250, and my old LS6 intake with throttle body for $450. i basically made money by buying the FAST intake! i still have my original injectors too! so i would just go the best budget way, in the hands of a good porter (or even self port), the fast 90/92 is a beast. for 3-5 rwhp gain in stock form and maybe less then that in a ported 92 vs ported 102, then i would definitely go for the 90/92 combo.
just my .02
good luck on your decision, at the end of the day, it is your combo not anybody else's.
just my .02
good luck on your decision, at the end of the day, it is your combo not anybody else's.
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worst thing about this whole debate is it does just come down to budget.
of course i wouldnt just do an intake for m6. at minimum the deal is: m6 (1k) = 90/90 intake & T/B (500 150) + $450ish
(current fuel rails will fit the 90)
im still think about the 102, but the cost would include the 102 fuel rails, Xover line, 102(have to have an equal T/B) i may be missing something else right now cant think of it. Basically rounding out to about $1600+/-.
of course i wouldnt just do an intake for m6. at minimum the deal is: m6 (1k) = 90/90 intake & T/B (500 150) + $450ish
(current fuel rails will fit the 90)
im still think about the 102, but the cost would include the 102 fuel rails, Xover line, 102(have to have an equal T/B) i may be missing something else right now cant think of it. Basically rounding out to about $1600+/-.