**UPDATED**PRC 215's-EPS Cam-Super Victor setup on a 346
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already had heads on and measured. actually ended up with 7.400"
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yeah it might be the same head but not the same ports, that car is tricked out for sure...lots of secrets...I have yet to see a prc 215/227 346 break 500rwhp...good heads just think they are hyped up to much...
I hope you proven me wrong I am rooting for you...got a buddy doing a killer setup too on a 346 with the 227s prc's, fast 102...
I put down some good numbers with my setup so it will be nice to see how they hold up against a victor prc215 setup since we are both a4 and dyno at the same place...
let me know if you need a hand or have any questions...I am right up the street in Plainfield...
oh yeah you have a lane when that car is done...make sure you have a good ram air setup or that is 3mph on the table![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
I hope you proven me wrong I am rooting for you...got a buddy doing a killer setup too on a 346 with the 227s prc's, fast 102...
I put down some good numbers with my setup so it will be nice to see how they hold up against a victor prc215 setup since we are both a4 and dyno at the same place...
let me know if you need a hand or have any questions...I am right up the street in Plainfield...
oh yeah you have a lane when that car is done...make sure you have a good ram air setup or that is 3mph on the table
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Sorry ups killed the cylinder Head you received. That's exactly why we use a expensive box setup and ship individually.
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I do appreciate you guys replacing yet another head without even recieving the original two back yet. As soon as I get a shipping label I will send the others back BTW.
The sooner I can get the replacement the better obviously so that I can break it in properly before the dyno. BTW I know this is for a different thread all together but how do you guys break in your motors, I know that some say to baby it, and other pretty much tell you to drive it like ya stole it. (personally I like the drive it like ya stole it... seems like so much more fun
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Because the heads are milled on the shop car. That's not rocket science. We have stated that it has higher compression in every thread about the car. Obviously we can't run the same compression on customer's cars as our shop car. It makes a handful of passes a year and is not driven every day like the majority of our customers do. If you think it is a different port on that car buy yourself a plane ticket and fly down. The car is actually here at the shop right now and we'll pull the heads off here just for you. I hate to burst your bubble but we don't do any hand porting on anything... ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
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Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
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Because the heads are milled on the shop car. That's not rocket science. We have stated that it has higher compression in every thread about the car. Obviously we can't run the same compression on customer's cars as our shop car. It makes a handful of passes a year and is not driven every day like the majority of our customers do. If you think it is a different port on that car buy yourself a plane ticket and fly down. The car is actually here at the shop right now and we'll pull the heads off here just for you. I hate to burst your bubble but we don't do any hand porting on anything... ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
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Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
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I did research for about 2 months before I actually bought the heads... Obviously $2k is a rather large purchase. If I didn't feel the PRC's were a good head I wouldn't have bought them in the first place... I never had any doubts about the heads nor do I feel your marketing is decieving. Just want to make that clear.
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I understand completely. We just want you to feel 100% confident in your purchase. It is a lot of money and the last thing I want is you to not be happy with them. If that were the case, absolutely we want them back so we can both feel good in your purchase.
Also, a little tip from having done a lot of testing on our engine dyno with a similar setup, go with a FAST intake manifold. We engine dyno tested the FAST and Super Victor both on the motor in our shop car. The Super Victor lost 30+ HP down low and only gained 5-6 HP up top even turning it to 7500 RPM compared to the FAST. That's on a motor with more compression and camshaft than what you are doing. I know it's more money than the Super Victor but it is going to make more usable power. Just a heads up for you.
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Also, a little tip from having done a lot of testing on our engine dyno with a similar setup, go with a FAST intake manifold. We engine dyno tested the FAST and Super Victor both on the motor in our shop car. The Super Victor lost 30+ HP down low and only gained 5-6 HP up top even turning it to 7500 RPM compared to the FAST. That's on a motor with more compression and camshaft than what you are doing. I know it's more money than the Super Victor but it is going to make more usable power. Just a heads up for you.
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I understand completely. We just want you to feel 100% confident in your purchase. It is a lot of money and the last thing I want is you to not be happy with them. If that were the case, absolutely we want them back so we can both feel good in your purchase.
Also, a little tip from having done a lot of testing on our engine dyno with a similar setup, go with a FAST intake manifold. We engine dyno tested the FAST and Super Victor both on the motor in our shop car. The Super Victor lost 30+ HP down low and only gained 5-6 HP up top even turning it to 7500 RPM compared to the FAST. That's on a motor with more compression and camshaft than what you are doing. I know it's more money than the Super Victor but it is going to make more usable power. Just a heads up for you.
Jon
Also, a little tip from having done a lot of testing on our engine dyno with a similar setup, go with a FAST intake manifold. We engine dyno tested the FAST and Super Victor both on the motor in our shop car. The Super Victor lost 30+ HP down low and only gained 5-6 HP up top even turning it to 7500 RPM compared to the FAST. That's on a motor with more compression and camshaft than what you are doing. I know it's more money than the Super Victor but it is going to make more usable power. Just a heads up for you.
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Really q16 is cause you bumped the compression??? sarcasm...my point was you market the heads for a street car with your drag race high compression track car...stay tuned for the results...what's your guess for his power...
as for reference mine car did 520rwhp locked on the same dyno last month...346 sbe, a4, 12 bolt 4.10 gears, 28" tall mt drag radials...
why has there never been a build thread on the track car, what are the specs on everything?
as for reference mine car did 520rwhp locked on the same dyno last month...346 sbe, a4, 12 bolt 4.10 gears, 28" tall mt drag radials...
why has there never been a build thread on the track car, what are the specs on everything?
Because the heads are milled on the shop car. That's not rocket science. We have stated that it has higher compression in every thread about the car. Obviously we can't run the same compression on customer's cars as our shop car. It makes a handful of passes a year and is not driven every day like the majority of our customers do. If you think it is a different port on that car buy yourself a plane ticket and fly down. The car is actually here at the shop right now and we'll pull the heads off here just for you. I hate to burst your bubble but we don't do any hand porting on anything... ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
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Daniel,
If you don't want the heads and feel you got caught up on some "good marketing" please send them back and we'll get you refunded on them. The last thing I want is you to not be happy with a product, especially before you even put them on to see if they are good or bad. The heads are exactly as we advertise. If you are doubting that before you get the heads, it makes more sense for you to go another route for you to be happy with what you are spending your money on. Let me know if that's what you want to do and we can make that happen.
Jon Reynolds
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LOL then you tell me what it is for? With 12.5:1 compression it is safer to run on race gas rather than pump gas. No one is hiding that. But I can tell you a point in compression isn't the reason that car runs as fast as it does. We could take the same heads we are sending to him setup for 11.5:1 on that motor and still run within a tenth or two, no problem.
What do you want for a build thread? It's a stock bottom end using parts we picked up off the floor, flycut pistons, PRC 227 CNC'd heads, TSP Custom 24x/24x cam, FAST 102. That's the same info. that we have put in every thread about the car. There's no tricks or anything that you keep reaching for or thinking there is... Like I said, come to the shop and check it out.
Congrats on the dyno numbers. If you have any other questions about our car, start a thread or PM me or even do a search on it. No need to keep posting all this crap in the OP thread.
What do you want for a build thread? It's a stock bottom end using parts we picked up off the floor, flycut pistons, PRC 227 CNC'd heads, TSP Custom 24x/24x cam, FAST 102. That's the same info. that we have put in every thread about the car. There's no tricks or anything that you keep reaching for or thinking there is... Like I said, come to the shop and check it out.
Congrats on the dyno numbers. If you have any other questions about our car, start a thread or PM me or even do a search on it. No need to keep posting all this crap in the OP thread.
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But like chris said i know of one other car running the prc's and is under the knife now. and if that car does not so well with track and dyno numbers then i am sold on the fact that the prc line is nothing but budget head. but we will see how the build turns out. the proof is in the pudding
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we will see tho till then its all hear say
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