WS6_NC88

ive decided its time to cam my trans am but i got a few questons im trying to decide weather im goin with the z06 ls6 or the patriot billet 225/229 on ws6 store... patriot cam said to use 7.400'' hardend pushrods and LS1 Patriot "Gold" Dual Valve Spring Kit. now the stock ls1 pushrods are already 7.400" so do i just need to get the gold springs or are the ls1 springs i have now gonna hold up because the patriot gold springs are good up to .650 lift... and the zo6 cam said to use ls6 valve springs odviously my springs are not ls6 spings if i have a ls1..

stock ls1 cam said to be: 0.496" / 0.496" int/exh lift 116 lsa

zo6 cam: 204/218 Lift: .550/.550 int/exh lift 116 lsa

patriot billet cam: Intake Duration: 225 @.050"
Exhaust Duration: 229 @.050"
Intake Lift: .580"
Exhaust Lift: .590"
LSA: 114+4
any info and suggestions will be appriciated.

5.0 LsX

iTrader: (7)

definatly go with the patriot billet cam if thos are your only choice, yes the stock push rods are the same length, but you want hardened so they do not flex, and definatly upgrade the springs/retainers

HoLLo

iTrader: (17)

I have the Patriot 225/229 cam and it is a great street cam for stock heads that will make power to 6200 and stay flat til about 6500 before dropoff. Nice flat torque. I reused my stock pushrods and used PAC 1218 .600 lift springs with almost 20k miles on everything so far and still runs like a champ. Id prefer patriots dual gold valve spring and will be getting some along with new lifters and pushrods when I get heads..

I did it the cheap route and can be done. But do yourself a favor and upgrade it all at once.

WS6_NC88

what you mean by flat till 6500 before drop off? and flat torque. but you did use your stock pushrods and springs and had no issues because im looking into heads too and im tryin to figure out what heads are on my ls1 im assuming there 5.7L heads... but i was looking into some 799 5.3L heads... and trying to re-use some of my stock parts if there still good because my car onlyhas 62000 on it and its neer been raced or ran hard. let me know im learning lol

WS6_NC88

Comp Cams Hi-Tech One-Piece Chromemoly pushrods, 7.400" Stock LS [7955-16]

I NEED TO KNOW IF THESE PUHRODS WILL WORK I DONT THINK THERE THE RECCOMENDED...

kinglt-1

iTrader: (26)

May I ask why you chose these cams as your only two options? I would definately upgrade the pushrods, valve springs, and do the trunion upgrade on your stock rockers. If your looking into a new heads/cam setup why not buy a matched combo from a reputable shop?

WS6_NC88

well does patriot make a set of ls6 heads because ive got the ls6 intake manifold im about to put on aswell...

HoLLo

iTrader: (17)

What I mean by flat til 6500 and flat torque is if you look at a dyno graph you will see the power peak at 6200 and the line will stay flat until 6500 where the line starts to drop (lose power) and a flat torque line is always a plus. I did use stock pushrods, but put in PAC 1218 valve springs. Currently the stock rods have 110k on them. It is ADVISABLE and HIGHLY recommended to swap pushrods, especially due how cheap they are, but most people act like it's impossible to reuse stock pushrods, which is not true. Springs is a MUST if you go with a cam with a higher lift.

Many people sell ported LS6 heads, Patriot included, along with PRC from Texas Speed, Advanced Induction, Total Engine Airflow, etc..

WS6_NC88

alrght man i got you, that all made sence. thanks for the help

kinglt-1

iTrader: (26)

I believe they have stage 1-3 ls6 heads... the stage 2 are around $1-1.1k

There are some that have made great power with them, others not so lucky,, but too many variables to determine the poor results imo. If your lookin for a decent budet head, these will work great for you. Although there are much better options out there, but at a price. To be honest I would rather give my money to texas speed or advanced induction, these 2 companies consistently put out better results than patriot... not bashing, just stating results Ive seen on dynos and the track.