Increasing ci. Gains in hp or just torque.
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Assuming that you're installing the same h/c setup from a 350 to a 383 or larger motor, what gains are seen from the bigger inch motor? I'm looking at several combos, but because of a limited budget, I'm trying to figure out the best route. My current h/c/i setup netted me 426/383 rwhp/tq on a stock bottom end...what should I expect on a 383 or larger ci motor?
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When looking at cam choices for the larger motor, would I be looking for something with more lift, or more duration to take advantage of the extra cubes?
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Depends on your heads, intake and exhaust. If you have crappy heads and intake, generally more duration with lower lift will leave more time for the cylinders to fill up and increase velocity at the same time. If you have awesome heads and intake, you can get away with lower duration and slightly higher lift and save yourself from having a huge cam wearing on valve train components.
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It should work as described above. I'd ditch both if budget allows (may not) and go bigger. If budget is tight then I'd keep the heads and have a cam done up by someone familiar with that combo.
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^^ You are correct, I did mean 346. ^^
I have no problem going with a larger cam but I'm looking for reliability and longevity. I'm not looking for a max effort motor but I would like to see as close to 500 rwhp as I could get without having the motor on the ragged edge. My goal is to run at least 126 mph at full weight in warm conditions. It currently runs between 118 - 120 in the heat, making 426 rw, but the times in my sig were run in -1800' da.
I have no problem going with a larger cam but I'm looking for reliability and longevity. I'm not looking for a max effort motor but I would like to see as close to 500 rwhp as I could get without having the motor on the ragged edge. My goal is to run at least 126 mph at full weight in warm conditions. It currently runs between 118 - 120 in the heat, making 426 rw, but the times in my sig were run in -1800' da.
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I recently talked to Brian tooley and he really helped me out and set the record straight for what is needed to do what, he's been working on these cars since 01 (IIRC), he used to port for TEA and he def knows his stuff, i say PM him and see what he recomends, maybe he has some tricks to help pull power out of those heads you currently have!
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^^ You are correct, I did mean 346. ^^
I have no problem going with a larger cam but I'm looking for reliability and longevity. I'm not looking for a max effort motor but I would like to see as close to 500 rwhp as I could get without having the motor on the ragged edge. My goal is to run at least 126 mph at full weight in warm conditions. It currently runs between 118 - 120 in the heat, making 426 rw, but the times in my sig were run in -1800' da.
I have no problem going with a larger cam but I'm looking for reliability and longevity. I'm not looking for a max effort motor but I would like to see as close to 500 rwhp as I could get without having the motor on the ragged edge. My goal is to run at least 126 mph at full weight in warm conditions. It currently runs between 118 - 120 in the heat, making 426 rw, but the times in my sig were run in -1800' da.
I would love to help you out by getting you the right cam after adding more displacement. Gains will depend on how big you are willing to go which will be determined by numerous factors.
Give me a shout if you'd like to know what I could do for your set-up.
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Thanks Martin, I'll be sure to do that. The size of the cam really doesn't matter to me as long as it's streetable. I'm still able to get 26 mpg with my current setup but I'm willing to give a little in the name of more hp. I know I'll never get factory driveability, but I never thought the cam I have now would be so streetable. I soon found out it's all in the tune.
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