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Old 12-29-2012, 09:28 AM
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need to get the final touches on my 383 im putting together.

what oil pump for a daily driven car?
what timing set is prefered? i would like to stay away from the double rollers as i dont want to grind and shim my pump away from the block.
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Ls2 timing set and ls6 oil pump
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^^^took the words outta my mouth
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Yep! LS2 chain and ported LS6 oil pump. That's all you need.

That's what I run on my cammed DD.
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I'd run the SLP Oil Pump (modified Melling) and a JP Performance Billet Single or Double Row Timing Set (double will fit without mods with the SLP pump). I prefer the billet gears with torrington bearing and adjustability vs stock gears. The chain, as long as it of LS2 quality, is enough.

You could also do a ported LS6 and just run the Billet Single JP chain. TSP, Katech, SDPC all sell good LS6 oil pumps. The TSP and SDPC are shimmed for higher pressure.

And I would recommend the JP set over the LS2 chain. The LS2 chain with new GM gears (highly recommended) costs more than even the JP double roller...
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on high performance applications I'm not a big fan of the LS2 chain last one i did it had some slop nothing bad but i didnt like it my own personal motor i ran a Manley double roller with the Torrington bearing so it dosent chew up the cam plate.

as far as a oil pump a stock one will be just fine the high volume ones tend to wanta suck the pan dry at high rpm plus most dont fit behind the stock timing cover without doing some cutting.
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whos the best place to order from?

i guess ill keep looking into a timing set, but pretty sure im gonna do a ported ls6 pump
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For what you wanna do check a regular ls6 pump, never know the difference between the two, but if got the extra cash go for it
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
I'd run the SLP Oil Pump (modified Melling) and a JP Performance Billet Single or Double Row Timing Set (double will fit without mods with the SLP pump). I prefer the billet gears with torrington bearing and adjustability vs stock gears. The chain, as long as it of LS2 quality, is enough.

You could also do a ported LS6 and just run the Billet Single JP chain. TSP, Katech, SDPC all sell good LS6 oil pumps. The TSP and SDPC are shimmed for higher pressure.

And I would recommend the JP set over the LS2 chain. The LS2 chain with new GM gears (highly recommended) costs more than even the JP double roller...
I ordered exactly what JakeFusion mentioned to you. (Haven't received it yet, so no first hand experience) I was also told that this setup will not have any clearance issues by SpeedInc.com That's where I purchased my setup from and they seem to have very competitive pricing, if not better.
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Yeah. The SLP pump is supposed to be pretty nice. And the SLP timing chain is nothing more than the JP Performance double with SLP's ridiculous markup. You could do a new LS6 pump or Melling M295 OE replacement if you wanted to save some cash.

WS6store has the JP Double and SLP Pump for like 256 shipped.
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what do you guys think of this pump?
GM P/N 17801830
its listed as a high volume pump kit?

$70 on gmpartsdirect.com
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which chain are you guys talking about with the torrington bearing?

http://jpperformance.carshopinc.com/...id/72084/5615T
http://jpperformance.carshopinc.com/...id/99751/5623t
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
I'd run the SLP Oil Pump (modified Melling) and a JP Performance Billet Single or Double Row Timing Set (double will fit without mods with the SLP pump). I prefer the billet gears with torrington bearing and adjustability vs stock gears. The chain, as long as it of LS2 quality, is enough.

You could also do a ported LS6 and just run the Billet Single JP chain. TSP, Katech, SDPC all sell good LS6 oil pumps. The TSP and SDPC are shimmed for higher pressure.

And I would recommend the JP set over the LS2 chain. The LS2 chain with new GM gears (highly recommended) costs more than even the JP double roller...
Will the LS2 JP Performance Billet Gear Set (Double) fit without modifications with the stock Oil Pump? I saw it on WS6store. Or would I need the LS1/LS6 one?

BTW OP, WS6store is selling the aforementioned timing sets for $89.95.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
BTW OP, WS6store is selling the aforementioned timing sets for $89.95.
couldnt find it on their site, got a link?
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Yeah, here are the links:

This one is for the LS2 one

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...r-set-double-/

This one is for the LS1/LS6 one

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...r-set-double-/

Both are the same price, but not sure which one you'll need. I'm sure someone will enlighten us, because I need to order one ASAP for my heads/cam swap too.
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52 pages worth of sales... Mine included. LS2 HD chain with billet gears. The crank gear is a 2 piece so it's adjustable. Came with a torrington bearing as well, which was a plus.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...new-gm-52.html

Personally I'm running a ported LS6 from TSP and couldn't be happier.
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
52 pages worth of sales... Mine included. LS2 HD chain with billet gears. The crank gear is a 2 piece so it's adjustable. Came with a torrington bearing as well, which was a plus.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...new-gm-52.html

Personally I'm running a ported LS6 from TSP and couldn't be happier.
Dr. Whigham, what is the difference between the JP Performance Billet Gear timing set and the one you have?
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Yank is out of stock.

And either the LS1 or LS2 will work. The LS2 chain is for a 24X reluctor and 1X gear. It just has the provision for the camshaft sensor which the LS2 requires. The LS1 chain doesn't. If you ever plan to run an LS2 block in the future, the LS2 chain will be okay. If not, just get the one designed for our cars.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Yank is out of stock.

And either the LS1 or LS2 will work. The LS2 chain is for a 24X reluctor and 1X gear. It just has the provision for the camshaft sensor which the LS2 requires. The LS1 chain doesn't. If you ever plan to run an LS2 block in the future, the LS2 chain will be okay. If not, just get the one designed for our cars.
Thanks for that info JakeFusion. I guess I'll just get the LS2 one since it will work just fine, plus, if I ever decide to go with a LS2 block, I'll be good to go.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Will the LS2 JP Performance Billet Gear Set (Double) fit without modifications with the stock Oil Pump? I saw it on WS6store. Or would I need the LS1/LS6 one?

BTW OP, WS6store is selling the aforementioned timing sets for $89.95.
wondering about the fitment of the jp performance ls2 gear set(double) and a ls6 oil pump myself, would there need to be any grinding or any other special things done for them to work?


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