Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Nick williams--coolant bypass?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-11-2014 | 10:14 PM
  #1  
tigersooner's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree

 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Default Nick williams--coolant bypass?

Just finished installing my fast 92. But now I guess I am realizing that I need to do coolant bypass?

Is this just part of the install that I overlooked in the write ups?

Any tips on what size tubing I should go buy from homedepot. I will so a good search tomorrow for coolant bypass how to.

I gotta give props to the board. Could t have done the install without all the video and help on here. I think I am in the home stretch.

Thanks guys.
Old 08-12-2014 | 01:53 AM
  #2  
Always2Slow's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 639
Likes: 1
Default

Yes, you overlooked it I would suggest a 4 corner steam kit from trickflow, which bypasses the TB and pulls steam from all 4 corners instead of 2.

Originally Posted by tigersooner
Just finished installing my fast 92. But now I guess I am realizing that I need to do coolant bypass?

Is this just part of the install that I overlooked in the write ups?

Any tips on what size tubing I should go buy from homedepot. I will so a good search tomorrow for coolant bypass how to.

I gotta give props to the board. Could t have done the install without all the video and help on here. I think I am in the home stretch.

Thanks guys.
Old 08-12-2014 | 02:27 AM
  #3  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

You haven't overlooked anything, It's assumed that that you've already done it. What you're going to need is 1 barbed hose end that has male pipe thread on the opposite end , and 1 that has female pipe thread on the opposite end . You'll be putting sealant on the male threads then screwing it into the female threads and tightening it up good with a couple of wrenches. as far as the barbed sizes you need I don't exactly remember the sizes need. S what you need to do is measure the tube diameter on both tubes on the stock throttle body, to get the 2 different sizes you need. I'm fairly sure the small barbed end needs to be 1/4. For the larger barbed fitting end it's either 5/16" or 3/8" . Anyway like I said before, measure the 2 tubes on the factory throttle body to be 110% sure!

Here what the two fittings should look like:




Last edited by 99Bluz28; 08-12-2014 at 02:33 AM.
Old 08-12-2014 | 06:20 AM
  #4  
tigersooner's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree

 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks. Do you think I could find a single tube with barbed ends.

I found a BMR kit that is like that but it's 20 for the kit. I am sure there should be something like at homedepot.

Headed there this morning to dig around. Thanks
Old 08-12-2014 | 01:43 PM
  #5  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

The problem with those kits is that they're overpriced and only one end of the barbed hose coupler is the correct size. So the oversized barbed in the smaller hose is going to cause premature failure of the over stretched hose. Furthermore if you try using a slightly larger hose to fit the larger hose barb better it won't fit tight enough on the smaller coolant x-over outlet tube without over tightening a clap on the hose which will also cause premature hose failure. IMO, if you or a friend are good at welding, or you know of someone that's good at welding small metal tubes together then you can remove the 2 tube from the bottom of the factory TB and have them welded together. FYI, you also can get a one piece 3/8" to 1/4" barbed reducer coupler, if that's the 2 sizes you need that would be perfect.

Last edited by 99Bluz28; 08-12-2014 at 01:50 PM.
Old 08-12-2014 | 04:09 PM
  #6  
tigersooner's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree

 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Default

Can't you just run a hose from the radiator to the block. route the hose under the MAF and above and away from all the belts and rotating assembly.

I am assuming the size of the two ends of the hose would have to be different and that is why this is not an option. I will be home soon to look at this and solve the problem.

I just realized that I didn't connect the air tube at the back of the intake so now my heater won't work. I've got to do this with the intake in place now.
Old 08-12-2014 | 07:18 PM
  #7  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

Here is what I did with my heads this time around. Here's a link... I don't feel like reposting.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...line-help.html
Old 08-13-2014 | 02:43 PM
  #8  
Captain Slow's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
From: FortLauderdale/Orlando
Default

Support a local fab/machine shop.

Was in the same situation. Made this yesterday.

Old 08-13-2014 | 03:11 PM
  #9  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

Originally Posted by tigersooner
Can't you just run a hose from the radiator to the block. route the hose under the MAF and above and away from all the belts and rotating assembly.

I am assuming the size of the two ends of the hose would have to be different and that is why this is not an option. I will be home soon to look at this and solve the problem.

I just realized that I didn't connect the air tube at the back of the intake so now my heater won't work. I've got to do this with the intake in place now.
Did you measure the tubes on the factory TB, what are the tube sizes ?

You can connect the vacuum hard line to the passenger-side vacuum port without removing the intake manifold since the port is actually easier to access do to it being further towards the passenger side.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...psbbfdd619.jpg
I would highly recommend doing this with the engine cold. Once you physically find the vacuum hard line you'll want to try and get it over further over on the passenger side(re-routing it helps) then install a 90* rubber vacuum port elbow(spraying some glass cleaner on/in rubber inlets will make the install a lot easier) onto the hard line , then push it onto the port on the side of the FAST 92 manifold. BTW, You should be able to find the small rubber vacuum elbows in any auto parts store.

Last edited by 99Bluz28; 08-13-2014 at 03:26 PM.
Old 08-13-2014 | 03:25 PM
  #10  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

Captain Slow, what size did you have the 2 ends made?
BTW, it looks to nice to hide it!
Old 08-13-2014 | 06:04 PM
  #11  
Captain Slow's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
From: FortLauderdale/Orlando
Default

Thanks I just measured the OD of a 1/4" and 5/16" hose barb. I want to say .290 and .335" with a 5/32" ID.

Took me like 5 minutes to make.
Old 08-13-2014 | 06:28 PM
  #12  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

HEy!


I just came across a brass 1/4" to 5/16" barbed hose adapter at JEGs.
The part is #555-15945, price is $10 ..
Old 08-14-2014 | 09:07 AM
  #13  
dr_whigham's Avatar
The Scammer Hammer
15 Year Member
iTrader: (49)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 21
From: Lafayette, LA
Default

These brass nipples are like 3 bucks at lowes or homes depot guys... Just get a 1/4" x 1/4" and you're good to go. That's it
Old 08-14-2014 | 01:34 PM
  #14  
MadFirehawk86's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by dr_whigham
These brass nipples are like 3 bucks at lowes or homes depot guys... Just get a 1/4" x 1/4" and you're good to go. That's it
Well said...no need to by a "name brand" kit just for a damn fitting and a sticker.
Old 08-14-2014 | 04:08 PM
  #15  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

No it's not well said. Not when it isn't the right/correct way to do it. dr_whigham, Please don't recommend a questionable fix, when you know it's not how it should be done.
Old 08-14-2014 | 04:31 PM
  #16  
SoFla01SSLookinstok's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,541
Likes: 15
From: South Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Slow
Support a local fab/machine shop.

Was in the same situation. Made this yesterday.

Nice!!
Old 08-14-2014 | 04:47 PM
  #17  
dr_whigham's Avatar
The Scammer Hammer
15 Year Member
iTrader: (49)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 21
From: Lafayette, LA
Default

Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
No it's not well said. Not when it isn't the right/correct way to do it. dr_whigham, Please don't recommend a questionable fix, when you know it's not how it should be done.
Are you out of your mind!!?? What is wrong with putting a double sided nipple in line?

Don't recommend "questionable fix"... Ok. You're right. Spend the extra money...
Old 08-14-2014 | 05:01 PM
  #18  
tigersooner's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree

 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Default

I went to home depot and bought some brass fittings, couplers, and nipples. I think it will work fine. I'll let you know if there is an issue.

I think there are many options out there, they all will probably work just fine. Some options will cost 6 dollars others much more.
Old 08-14-2014 | 07:00 PM
  #19  
99Bluz28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 11
From: C. V., Kalifornia
Default

Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Are you out of your mind!!?? What is wrong with putting a double sided nipple in line?

Don't recommend "questionable fix"... Ok. You're right. Spend the extra money...
Nothings wrong with putting a double sided nipple in line, IF you have the correct size nipples/barbs on both ends, but what you suggest doesn't. BTW, is there something wrong with spending a few extra dollars(+$7) to do something the right/correct way.. ?

The burden of the frugal psyche!
Old 08-14-2014 | 08:00 PM
  #20  
dr_whigham's Avatar
The Scammer Hammer
15 Year Member
iTrader: (49)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 21
From: Lafayette, LA
Default

Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Nothings wrong with putting a double sided nipple in line, IF you have the correct size nipples/barbs on both ends, but what you suggest doesn't. BTW, is there something wrong with spending a few extra dollars(+$7) to do something the right/correct way.. ? The burden of the frugal psyche!
Correct size on both ends? USUALLY, when people do this mod they replace the entire hose, all foot and a half of it, with new 1/4" hose.

Look at the age of these cars now... Why in the world would anyone want to reuse old hose, just so they can make sure both ends are right?

1/4" hose, 1/4" x 1/4" nipple, and 4 tiny hose clamps.

Case closed



Quick Reply: Nick williams--coolant bypass?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:59 AM.