LG Motorsports

Well next to the WS6, you could tell the difference because our car has a BowTie on it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(Just kidding)

But seriously, it idles very nice, with just enough rumble to it. We are doing a C5 and another Fbody as we speak, and we will get to
Tune on it with LS1 edit to get a better feel for the idle quality. At first impression, the car is very docile.

Thanks,

Lou Gigliotti LGMotorsports.com

RAGEman

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I'm with Fenris Ulf, I've never seen so much bandwagon-jumping in my life. Even within this one thread, it's absolutely ridiculous. Christ. If you believe something, believe it, stand by it, and preach it. Good job to Fenris, Lou, and everyone else doing so. Personally, I'm not a moron, and I need to see more than just one dyno result before I make a decision. Lou, you could have had 2 great drag racers in your customer base, but your son kinda dropped the ball on that one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Just kidding, Louis.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> I'm with Fenris Ulf, I've never seen so much bandwagon-jumping in my life. Even within this one thread, it's absolutely ridiculous. Christ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lol, relax, dude. All some of us are saying is that we believe the numbers are possible. Just because no one has seen a h/c motor with that output before doesn't mean it will never happen. Pessimists vs Optimists I guess. Bandwagon jumping? <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

RAGEman

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Yeah. If someone has an opinion other than whatever the general consensus happens to be at the time, they all wait until one person has the guts to post his or her opinion, then the rest of them all grab onto his or her tail. You need to re-read my post and find where I said or implied that it couldn't be done because it hasn't been done before. I said it will take more than one dyno result to get this guy to jump on any particular bandwagon.

Bandwagon jumping? Yes, bandwagon jumping.

Crowley

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LG Motorsports:
<strong> Well next to the WS6, you could tell the difference because our car has a BowTie on it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(Just kidding)

But seriously, it idles very nice, with just enough rumble to it. We are doing a C5 and another Fbody as we speak, and we will get to
Tune on it with LS1 edit to get a better feel for the idle quality. At first impression, the car is very docile.

Thanks,

Lou Gigliotti LGMotorsports.com </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lou .. what would you say the gains over your G5 cam with a stock head LS1 would be? Would there be any driveability lost? Could you use the same springs, retainers ..etc ?

Thanks,
Crowley

Kylekay

Lou, do you foresee any problems with passing emissions testing with that package? In Houston?

2000SILVERTA

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Kylekay:
<strong> Lou, do you foresee any problems with passing emissions testing with that package? In Houston? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This made me chuckle. Not sure why, but it did.

Nice combo Lou. How much HP do you think it would lose through cats?

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> Yeah. If someone has an opinion other than whatever the general consensus happens to be at the time, they all wait until one person has the guts to post his or her opinion, then the rest of them all grab onto his or her tail. You need to re-read my post and find where I said or implied that it couldn't be done because it hasn't been done before. I said it will take more than one dyno result to get this guy to jump on any particular bandwagon.

Bandwagon jumping? Yes, bandwagon jumping. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm, okay, can't really make sense of that first part but cool. I don't think of anyone who would not like to see more dyno #'s and times. I just happen to believe those #'s are *possible* (key word I posted before). If you call that bandwagon jumping, then, mmmkay <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

RAGEman

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Nevermind. I'm sorry that, for whatever reason, you can't understand what I'm saying. Let's focus on what we can both understand and agree on: we'd like to see more results. I'll be waiting patiently.

Fireball

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How is this so unbelieveable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> ? My setup (S2 heads...on 5.3L castings) with a decent size cam put down 444 RWHP thru a 9" ford with bigass 35 spline axles, huge 4.71 gears and a 3.5" steel driveshaft. Hell I could redyno with a 10-bolt and probably hit near 460 RWHP <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

Sure he has less compression than I do (10.8 vs 11.8) but he has the advantage of having LS6 heads <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

BurnOut

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kylekay- I don't know the specs of the G5X-2, but I'd be surprised to see any cam of more than ~218 @ .050 on the intake side ground on anything tighter than a 116 LDA pass emissions testing.

However, since all LS1 cars are '96-newer (and therefore OBDII compliant), there should be nothing more than a code scan of the ECM (if I understand Texas emissions testing correctly). They won't do the sniffer unless something pretty wacky shows up during the code scan (again, if I understand the process correctly).

Fenris Ulf

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong> How is this so unbelieveable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> ? My setup (S2 heads...on 5.3L castings) with a decent size cam put down 444 RWHP thru a 9" ford with bigass 35 spline axles, huge 4.71 gears and a 3.5" steel driveshaft. Hell I could redyno with a 10-bolt and probably hit near 460 RWHP <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

Sure he has less compression than I do (10.8 vs 11.8) but he has the advantage of having LS6 heads <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really doubt that LS6 heads make that big of a difference with a hydraulic cam. From what I have seen, the LS6 intake ports really don't start pulling away from LS1 castings until past .500 lift and I would think that a solid roller would be needed to really take advantage of the high-lift flow.

Fenris Ulf

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> Nevermind. I'm sorry that, for whatever reason, you can't understand what I'm saying. Let's focus on what we can both understand and agree on: we'd like to see more results. I'll be waiting patiently. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Word <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

mitchntx

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Some of you guys really crack me up.

It does appear the bar has been raised. Why is that so hard to believe?

People will jump on abandwagon in a heartbeat when its negative stuff, but will rip it to shred when it's something never done before.

As in all breakthroughs and advances, the consumer is the winner ...

Fenris Ulf

Its hard to believe that the bar has been raised with results from only one car, that is what I am saying.

zTrackerz

I didn't even read all the posts because theres too many of them... But I did want to make a comment.
I think this is Bull S..T too. You don't want to give up the cam specs, just pull your own chain on how great it is. I think it's kind of crappy for whatever reason. If I knew of something that would benefit the group i would share the info. Performance parts aren't cheap, and to make the wrong choice, for some of us can be devistating. Get a patent on the dam thing and enjoy it..............

RAGEman

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So am I in the wrong for not jumping on a "positive" bandwagon after one freaking dyno? THAT is unbelieveable.

Scalpel

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

First,

Comp does not grind our new cam, for exactly the proprietary reason. We didn't want everyone copying it. Our specs... and our cam grinder.

[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have seen three G5s come in a box from LGM in a Comp Cams box, do ya'll put the G5 in a Comp box to fool us? I'm confused.

Scalpel

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
We have one very good drag racer in our customer base. The car went 11.06 @ 122, 1.47 60 ft with the G5. I suspect that that car will be in the 10's with just the cam swap, since they have the other good sutff for drag racing now.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> That's fast. What is the setup on that sucker? How much does it weigh, etc?

H82BBad

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong> How is this so unbelieveable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> ? My setup (S2 heads...on 5.3L castings) with a decent size cam put down 444 RWHP thru a 9" ford with bigass 35 spline axles, huge 4.71 gears and a 3.5" steel driveshaft. Hell I could redyno with a 10-bolt and probably hit near 460 RWHP <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

Sure he has less compression than I do (10.8 vs 11.8) but he has the advantage of having LS6 heads <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really doubt that LS6 heads make that big of a difference with a hydraulic cam. From what I have seen, the LS6 intake ports really don't start pulling away from LS1 castings until past .500 lift and I would think that a solid roller would be needed to really take advantage of the high-lift flow. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have seen that The ls6 intake ports rule in the mid lifts plus over 500 lift.