View Poll Results: what should I do to my 98 SI motor
just add the LSX intake to the 98
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install 02 fbody cam/heads
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I believe that the 02 heads are better, but the 98 cam is more agressive. Either way if your going to have to pay for either of these id say get an aftermarket cam because changing the heads and cam is gonna do nothing for you HP wise. Id say if your going to change the internals at least put in a bigger cam and some better heads. As for the LSX intake id say go with an ls6 for now as it will give you good gains and you dont need the lsx yet for your application. If you go with a big cam and heads down the road then the LSX is the way to go. What are your goals for your car BTW (HP/TQ numbers etc...)
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What's you goal for the '98? None of your options are cost effective unless the parts and labor are free. And even if everything is free is it worth the effort for 5-15rwhp? At a minimum I'd put in a basic TR 224 cam kit.
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If you're set against an aftermarket heads/cam setup, this is the way to go:
Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Id say then keep the 98 cam as i believe it is more aggressive and get an ls6 and the newer style heads.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
and im guessing your gonna be spraying? Or some type of FI?
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Oh im not disagreeing I just have never heard of a stock engine car with bolt ons (probably making 330-340 rwhp) at full weight with no aftermarket cam or heads or any power adders running an 11 second pass thats all. Best my buddy has mustered with a TR 224 and stage II 5.3 heads (pushing around 410 rwhp) was low 12 second pass and hes running DR's.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
So wait that was 11's on a bone stock internal engine? Like cam, heads, everything and no power adder? Was that in a gutted car with all bolt ons and DR's?
11's is not impossible for a stock internal LS1.
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Oh im not disagreeing I just have never heard of a stock engine car with bolt ons (probably making 330-340 rwhp) at full weight with no aftermarket cam or heads or any power adders running an 11 second pass thats all. Best my buddy has mustered with a TR 224 and stage II 5.3 heads (pushing around 410 rwhp) was low 12 second pass and hes running DR's.
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heres a list of 50 people with stock internals running 11.83 or quicker and some of them are 3500 pounds which is most likely full weight
Magnus ------ 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
Hawkn01 ----- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
RUQWIKR ----- 11.273 @ 120.02 (1.46), 01 Formula A4, YTP4400, 4.11, 3140, 04/02
Skelton ----- 11.301 @ 119.29 (1.50), 01 Formula A4, YTP4400, 4.10, 3130, 03/05
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
V6 Bird ------ 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
Lane --------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4200, 3.42, 3350, 11/02
11SECSS ----- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3200, 04/02
DMcRacer ---- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4, PY3800E, 3:42, 3400, 11/03
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 4.10, 3150, 07/05
Black Sunshine 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3225, 10/01
Birdman ------ 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3180, 05/02
WILWAXU ---- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4200, 3.73, 3320, 01/04
01-Z -------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3090, 09/02
Lynda ------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/03
Raughammer - 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.73, 3175, 01/01
2002Z ------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.73, 3450, 10/02
Colonel ------ 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.89, 3285, 10/00
RAGEman ----- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Dangerous SS - 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 01/04
MikeHoffpauir 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/01
JFM ---------- 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3350, 01/02
mmiller ------ 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3312, 02/02
JS12 -------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, Spec S4, 3.73, 3435, 11/02
LARRY01Z28 -- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Star, 3.73, 3265, 10/02
JASON ------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YSY3500, 3.42, 3340, 01/03
FASTR A4 ---- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3450, 04/03
2Quick4U ---- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3500, 10/01
MADCOW ------ 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3300, 03/04
black02-z28 -- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS4200, 3.73, 3600, 12/04
z28kid98 ----- 11.740 @ 113.55 (1.56), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3250, 10/02
Durien ------ 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.11, 3487, 02/04
Raptor99 --- 11.756 @ 115.06 (1.57), 99 Trans Am A4, TCI3800, 3.73, 3440, 11/04
Steve350 ---- 11.761 @ 114.46 (1.55), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3430, 01/02
PewterZ28 --- 11.762 @ 114.53 (1.60), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 04/03
jay_99z ----- 11.767 @ 113.66 (1.56), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3400, 11/04
Jnorris ------ 11.773 @ 113.02 (1.59), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3390, 11/02
Top Fuel ---- 11.794 @ 113.38 (1.53), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4000E, 3.73, 3335, 10/01
Hugger ------ 11.796 @ 113.83 (1.64), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3700, 3.23, 3440, 01/03
Jason99T/A -- 11.801 @ 115.66 (1.69), 99 Trans-Am M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3450, 12/01
Bob2of3 ----- 11.806 @ 113.80 (1.54), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.42, 3350, 03/01
Edge Hawk --- 11.807 @ 114.32 (1.58), 01 Firehawk A4, FBC4000, 3.73, 3415, 11/04
OnyxLS1 ----- 11.818 @ 116.05 (1.63), 00 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.10, 3325, 03/02
promod1955 --- 11.812 @ 112.86 (1.566) 02 camaro SS A4,YPT 4400, 3.90, 3345, 10/04
Steve350 ---- 11.832 @ 113.11 (1.55), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3580, 01/02
jc2000formula 11.822 @ 114.50 (1.65), 00 Formula A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3550, 10/03
Colonel ------ 11.826 @ 113.12 (1.61), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI3500, 3.23, 3550, 01/03
Silver LS! --- 11.83? @ 115.23 (1.56), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, Vig3600, 4.10, 3490, ??/01
Bad Habit Bird 11.83? @ 115.38 (1.64), 01 Formula M6, stock, 4.10, 3550, 05/02
Magnus ------ 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
Hawkn01 ----- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
RUQWIKR ----- 11.273 @ 120.02 (1.46), 01 Formula A4, YTP4400, 4.11, 3140, 04/02
Skelton ----- 11.301 @ 119.29 (1.50), 01 Formula A4, YTP4400, 4.10, 3130, 03/05
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
V6 Bird ------ 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
Lane --------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4200, 3.42, 3350, 11/02
11SECSS ----- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3200, 04/02
DMcRacer ---- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4, PY3800E, 3:42, 3400, 11/03
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 4.10, 3150, 07/05
Black Sunshine 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3225, 10/01
Birdman ------ 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3180, 05/02
WILWAXU ---- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4200, 3.73, 3320, 01/04
01-Z -------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3090, 09/02
Lynda ------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/03
Raughammer - 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.73, 3175, 01/01
2002Z ------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.73, 3450, 10/02
Colonel ------ 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.89, 3285, 10/00
RAGEman ----- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Dangerous SS - 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 01/04
MikeHoffpauir 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/01
JFM ---------- 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3350, 01/02
mmiller ------ 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3312, 02/02
JS12 -------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, Spec S4, 3.73, 3435, 11/02
LARRY01Z28 -- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Star, 3.73, 3265, 10/02
JASON ------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YSY3500, 3.42, 3340, 01/03
FASTR A4 ---- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3450, 04/03
2Quick4U ---- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3500, 10/01
MADCOW ------ 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3300, 03/04
black02-z28 -- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS4200, 3.73, 3600, 12/04
z28kid98 ----- 11.740 @ 113.55 (1.56), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3250, 10/02
Durien ------ 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.11, 3487, 02/04
Raptor99 --- 11.756 @ 115.06 (1.57), 99 Trans Am A4, TCI3800, 3.73, 3440, 11/04
Steve350 ---- 11.761 @ 114.46 (1.55), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3430, 01/02
PewterZ28 --- 11.762 @ 114.53 (1.60), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 04/03
jay_99z ----- 11.767 @ 113.66 (1.56), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3400, 11/04
Jnorris ------ 11.773 @ 113.02 (1.59), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3390, 11/02
Top Fuel ---- 11.794 @ 113.38 (1.53), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4000E, 3.73, 3335, 10/01
Hugger ------ 11.796 @ 113.83 (1.64), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3700, 3.23, 3440, 01/03
Jason99T/A -- 11.801 @ 115.66 (1.69), 99 Trans-Am M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3450, 12/01
Bob2of3 ----- 11.806 @ 113.80 (1.54), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.42, 3350, 03/01
Edge Hawk --- 11.807 @ 114.32 (1.58), 01 Firehawk A4, FBC4000, 3.73, 3415, 11/04
OnyxLS1 ----- 11.818 @ 116.05 (1.63), 00 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.10, 3325, 03/02
promod1955 --- 11.812 @ 112.86 (1.566) 02 camaro SS A4,YPT 4400, 3.90, 3345, 10/04
Steve350 ---- 11.832 @ 113.11 (1.55), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3580, 01/02
jc2000formula 11.822 @ 114.50 (1.65), 00 Formula A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3550, 10/03
Colonel ------ 11.826 @ 113.12 (1.61), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI3500, 3.23, 3550, 01/03
Silver LS! --- 11.83? @ 115.23 (1.56), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, Vig3600, 4.10, 3490, ??/01
Bad Habit Bird 11.83? @ 115.38 (1.64), 01 Formula M6, stock, 4.10, 3550, 05/02
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Just using this one as an example because its just about full weight:
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
So your telling me that a stock 00 Camaro SS A4, stock cam, stock heads, no FI, and 3.73 gears at 3400 pounds can run those times? How is that possible? Again im no doubting you but Id just like more info about what is involved because those are insane times without any internal engine work done!
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
So your telling me that a stock 00 Camaro SS A4, stock cam, stock heads, no FI, and 3.73 gears at 3400 pounds can run those times? How is that possible? Again im no doubting you but Id just like more info about what is involved because those are insane times without any internal engine work done!
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Just using this one as an example because its just about full weight:
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
So your telling me that a stock 00 Camaro SS A4, stock cam, stock heads, no FI, and 3.73 gears at 3400 pounds can run those times? How is that possible? Again im no doubting you but Id just like more info about what is involved because those are insane times without any internal engine work done!
BAIN ------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
So your telling me that a stock 00 Camaro SS A4, stock cam, stock heads, no FI, and 3.73 gears at 3400 pounds can run those times? How is that possible? Again im no doubting you but Id just like more info about what is involved because those are insane times without any internal engine work done!
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Originally Posted by Keenov
11's is not impossible for a stock internal LS1.
If he is still in the 12's, he needs to sell his car or let someone else drive it. My '98, with just the tr224, ran 12.3 with a 1.9 60' with all bolt-ons. 367rwhp And he has some decent heads, he should be low 11's.
If he is still in the 12's, he needs to sell his car or let someone else drive it. My '98, with just the tr224, ran 12.3 with a 1.9 60' with all bolt-ons. 367rwhp And he has some decent heads, he should be low 11's.