Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

everyone with cams no TC, ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:01 PM
  #1  
FormulaNHRA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: Mt. Prospect, IL
Default everyone with cams no TC, ?

I wanted to take a little pole from the people that have gotten a new cam, pushrods, springs without getting a new torque converter (including bolt-ons of course). Preferably automatics too. I wondered if you were happy with the power from just the cam or also wished that you would have gotten a higher stall/ converter with it. Open to any comments or thoughts.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:07 PM
  #2  
Dip Stick's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Henderson, NC
Default

where's the poll? ) chuckles I wanted to see the I drive a stick choice.. hehe
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:24 PM
  #3  
blkZ28spt's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,524
Likes: 1
From: The South
Default

Converter before cam.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:43 PM
  #4  
drkbluls1's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Maricopa, Az
Default

yea converter makes the biggest difference, trust us!
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:49 PM
  #5  
Hennytime's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,584
Likes: 0
From: winter springs, fl
Default

im probly going to run a hotcam with no stall converter. most people would look way down upon this because one its a cammed car with no tc, and two b/c its a hotcam. but im not a track rat but like to have the cammed feeling while making decent power while keeping high relability and low cost
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:50 PM
  #6  
blkZ28spt's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,524
Likes: 1
From: The South
Default

Originally Posted by Hennytime
im probly going to run a hotcam with no stall converter. most people would look way down upon this because one its a cammed car with no tc, and two b/c its a hotcam. but im not a track rat but like to have the cammed feeling while making decent power while keeping high relability and low cost
Why do you want to make power?

You will get far more performance gain from a converter, even a small one, than a Hotcam.

There is a reason not many people do this. Actually, there are several reasons.

Let us know how it goes after it's been in for a few weeks.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:46 AM
  #7  
66deuce's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
From: Goshen,In.
Default

i installed my cam a few days before i did the TQ,and even with a small TR220 it was a dog out of the hole.had idle issues,etc.you really need to do both.you won't like how it drives,trust me.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 12:18 PM
  #8  
BigDaddyBry's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 1
From: Ridgecrest, CA
Default

I know its a late post but with my hotcam and no verter for about 4 months, my only complaint was coming to a dead stop the car would jerk and surge. Not an unbelievable amount, but an amount to where when sitting in traffic or hitting alot of red lights, it would start to **** me off.

As for being a pig off the line, it was anything but because of the surging. Its more a pig off the line at low rpms with the verter. But once you wind it up, nothing (cam, heads, exhaust) compares to the performance.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:09 PM
  #9  
blkZ28spt's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,524
Likes: 1
From: The South
Default

Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry

As for being a pig off the line, it was anything but because of the surging. Its more a pig off the line at low rpms with the verter. But once you wind it up, nothing (cam, heads, exhaust) compares to the performance.
Did you get it tuned??
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:01 PM
  #10  
jmm98LS1's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,975
Likes: 3
From: KS
Default

For people reading this in the future:
I had my ASA cam in my car on the stock torque converter for a little over a year. The reason I did this is because my original plans were to swap my 4l60e for a t56 setup, so I didn't want to throw money at the auto that I planned on yanking anyhow. I tuned it myself, driveablility was perfect and I had it idling at 700rpm. It pulled on the brakes a little in gear at a stoplight but not bad and it never would try to die. The car wasn't "a dog" down low (no worse than stock) but it really took off above 3k rpm. The dead spots that a4 cars suffer from between shift points were even worse after the cam since it's power is made at higher rpms.
Fast forward one year and I see my financial situation isn't going to allow a pricey t56 swap for several years (wife getting masters degree) so I threw a Fuddle 3600 in it. It was INCREDIBLE how the car changed with a stall and how much faster it was. Coming from someone that's done it....do the converter first. While the cam made my car faster than stock and it sounded badass, there's no comparison in the performance gain the converter will give you over the cam by itself. Needless to say, I no longer wish I had a t56 in my car.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:57 AM
  #11  
BigDaddyBry's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 1
From: Ridgecrest, CA
Default

Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Did you get it tuned??
All mods were tuned prior to the TC install. No tuning was performed post-TC install. Tuning will be performed once I get my next set of mods installed.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:13 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE