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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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What would be the symptoms of having slack in the timing chain??
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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What chain did you put on? I believe some have more slack then others...
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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I still have the stock chain with 40,000 miles, but I have a random missfire and its not fuel related, pushrod, ignition, or bent valve.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Seems a lot of people have had slack in their stock chains - https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/325345-so-i-guess-ls1-s-run-lot-slack-timing-chain.html
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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anyone?
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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When I changed out my timing chain with my cam install, it had a fair amount on play in it. I changed over to the LS2 timing chain and it did fit tighter.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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But what are the simptoms of having to much slack????
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Is it possible to have to much slack in the chain? what problems can that cause? I am lost now lol sorry!
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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maybe slight timing differences but i don't think it would be enough for misfires.are you running a colder plug like the tr6 ?
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Unless you get enough slack to cause a mechanical failure, the only thing I could see it do is retard yoru cam timing. This will result in moving your power band upwards in the rpm range. While it may lose a little low end since it moves max torque upwards, if anything it may increase top end HP. Atleast to a certain point until it stretches too far.
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The effect of slack is an interesting consideration. I guess it would make for a slight variation in valve timing, but would it only be in the retard direction? I would think that on deceleration the crank would cause the cam to decelerate. Would this move the slack to the other side of the timing gears and cause slight advance?

I wonder if it really makes a significant difference.

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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
The effect of slack is an interesting consideration. I guess it would make for a slight variation in valve timing, but would it only be in the retard direction? I would think that on deceleration the crank would cause the cam to decelerate. Would this move the slack to the other side of the timing gears and cause slight advance?

I wonder if it really makes a significant difference.

During deceleration, the drivetrain is still turning the crank and not the camshaft. Yes, the cam has inertia, but I think overcoming the valvesprings might be enough to keep the inertia from spinning faster than the crank... Although, im basing this soley on my imagination of the way things work...
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
During deceleration, the drivetrain is still turning the crank and not the camshaft. Yes, the cam has inertia, but I think overcoming the valvesprings might be enough to keep the inertia from spinning faster than the crank... Although, im basing this soley on my imagination of the way things work...
I can't see, said the man with 20/20 lol.

Someone needs to build a transparent motor so I can see exactly what the heck goes on in there.

But I think I understand what your saying.

Acceleration of car: the crank accelerates the drive train and the cam.

Deceleration of car: the drive train deceleratres the the crank but the crank still accelerates the cam. (In other words, the cam is not applying a force to the crank in a dircection so as to reduce crank rpm.)
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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maybe slight timing differences but i don't think it would be enough for misfires.are you running a colder plug like the tr6 ?
Nope Im runnin tr55's but have recently changed them.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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think your recent plug change is the issue, look for a not fully seated plug wire.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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I have checked that many times. Any other ideas?
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