Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

25% UDr pulley & higher compression -> cooling issues?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-10-2006, 11:37 AM
  #1  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ShevrolayZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default 25% UDr pulley & higher compression -> cooling issues?

I hope this is appropraite for this forum lol.

I'm a little concerned about my cooling capacity once I'm done installing a H/C combo along with 25% under-drive pulley.

Will the higher compression (SCR a wee bit over 11:1, DCR just below 8.5:1.) combined with spinning the stock water pump a bit slower cause problems with cooling? Both mods will make the car run a little hotter, plus the gas around these parts is 10% alcohol. I want to avoid detonation problems!

I don't believe a lower temp thermostat and lowering fan settings are the answer, I wish they were but the stat and fans mostly only control the minimum temp and how long it takes the car to warm up IMO.

So that leaves us with a possible water pump upgrade. (Wow those things are expensive!) Or a larger radiator. (Not cheap either and weighs more.)

This is not a race car, it will see plenty of city driving and occasionally some track.

Maybe my concerns are unwarranted. So I ask how are people making out with higher compression set ups in conjunction with 25% under-drive?

TIA
Mark

Last edited by ShevrolayZ28; 07-10-2006 at 11:47 AM.
Old 07-10-2006, 11:43 AM
  #2  
TECH Senior Member
 
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: BFE
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

No issues here, and believe me we KNOW heat.
Old 07-10-2006, 11:47 AM
  #3  
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Studytime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BTR, La
Posts: 1,363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No issues here, and believe me we KNOW heat.
... AND you have an iron block.

Ben T.
Old 07-10-2006, 11:50 AM
  #4  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ShevrolayZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No issues here, and believe me we KNOW heat.
Dubai-> Triple digits with regularity.

I should be ok then.
Old 07-10-2006, 11:52 AM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
SiL3NtXWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I ran the stock water pump on a high compression iron block too with 25% pulley.

No issues however, i now run an electric pump.
Old 07-10-2006, 12:00 PM
  #6  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ShevrolayZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6
I ran the stock water pump on a high compression iron block too with 25% pulley.

No issues however, i now run an electric pump.
....And Texas is pretty darn hot too.

I think I'll give some of that Redline water wetter a try and leave it at that.
Old 07-10-2006, 12:56 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
 
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: BFE
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
....And Texas is pretty darn hot too.

I think I'll give some of that Redline water wetter a try and leave it at that.
I've used that stuff and it has best results when coolant is not 100% but more diluted with water.
Old 07-10-2006, 01:40 PM
  #8  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (12)
 
Wnts2Go10O's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rockville, MD
Posts: 4,354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I've used that stuff and it has best results when coolant is not 100% but more diluted with water.
why would you run 100% coolant?
Old 07-10-2006, 01:57 PM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
GuitsBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 6,249
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
why would you run 100% coolant?
I guess for an even higher boiling point...
Old 07-10-2006, 02:39 PM
  #10  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Water is much more effective at effective than coolant for transferring heat. Also, for every psi increase, boiling point of water increases 2 degrees. ie 16psi=244 degree boiling point.
Old 07-10-2006, 03:08 PM
  #11  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Benjamin Russick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I'm a little over 11:1 compression with the stock water pump and haven't had any issues. FWIW, I was always told not to add any "water wetter" products to DexCool...
Old 07-10-2006, 03:10 PM
  #12  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ShevrolayZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Benjamin Russick
I'm a little over 11:1 compression with the stock water pump and haven't had any issues. FWIW, I was always told not to add any "water wetter" products to DexCool...
It says on Thunder racing's website that it's safe for Dexcool systems.

http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...=82&sid=83#P11

Redline also says it's safe to use in Dexcool.

WaterWetter® is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30ºF. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze systems. Compatible with all antifreezes, including the latest long-life variations.

Last edited by ShevrolayZ28; 07-10-2006 at 03:45 PM.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:05 AM.