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Hey guys...
Who has a superstroker or one on the way?
I've got a few questions for you if you have time....
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
4) What cam?
5) What heads?
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
7) Where did you make peak HP?
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
9) Goals for 2002?
<small>[ May 03, 2002, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Pro Stock John ]</small>
Who has a superstroker or one on the way?
I've got a few questions for you if you have time....
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
4) What cam?
5) What heads?
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
7) Where did you make peak HP?
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
9) Goals for 2002?
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Me...
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
422ci ARE Iron block
4.060 bore
4.075 stroke
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
450rwhp, 502rwtq unlocked
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Yes, Amoco 92
4) What cam?
Lunati 242/242/114, in at 112
5) What heads?
ARE 2.08/1.60 LS1 heads
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
31 degrees
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6150-6200
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
11.15@120.3mph, 3600-3700 raceweight
9) Goals for 2002?
10.75-10.85 on pump gas and maintain streetability
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Additional... I drive the car for enjoyment, and usually drive it a couple of times per week. I can easily put 200-300 miles on it in two days.
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
422ci ARE Iron block
4.060 bore
4.075 stroke
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
450rwhp, 502rwtq unlocked
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Yes, Amoco 92
4) What cam?
Lunati 242/242/114, in at 112
5) What heads?
ARE 2.08/1.60 LS1 heads
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
31 degrees
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6150-6200
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
11.15@120.3mph, 3600-3700 raceweight
9) Goals for 2002?
10.75-10.85 on pump gas and maintain streetability
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Additional... I drive the car for enjoyment, and usually drive it a couple of times per week. I can easily put 200-300 miles on it in two days.
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Well here is what is in the works.
1) ARE iron block ~422 (4.03 bore * 4.125 stroke)
2) Hopefully alot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> (looking for high 400's)
3) Its being built for pump gas(10.8:1 CR)
4) 240/240 .645/.645 114 lift at 1.8 rocker ratio
5) Stage 3+ 6.0L aluminum done by ARE.
6) Obviously, don't know yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
7) "
8) "
It will be going in a truck.(lightest fullsize possible) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
John
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1) ARE iron block ~422 (4.03 bore * 4.125 stroke)
2) Hopefully alot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> (looking for high 400's)
3) Its being built for pump gas(10.8:1 CR)
4) 240/240 .645/.645 114 lift at 1.8 rocker ratio
5) Stage 3+ 6.0L aluminum done by ARE.
6) Obviously, don't know yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
7) "
8) "
It will be going in a truck.(lightest fullsize possible) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
John
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This is for my upcoming MTI 422 motor
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
MTI 422 motor
4.1" bore - 4.0" stroke - 11.2:1 compression ratio
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
not yet but shooting for 470+ rwhp through unlocked SY3500 converter & 3.73 gears
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Yes, car is tuned to run on 94 octane fuel
4) What cam?
244/244/114, max lift 610
5) What heads?
MTI stage 3 2.08/1.60 LS6 heads
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
not sure yet, but I got a custom tuned PCM & I requested 28 degrees.
7) Where did you make peak HP?
no data yet but I guess it'll be around 6400 rpm
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
No data yet
9) Goals for 2002?
don't care much about ET, but shooting for 128+ mph trap speed with about 3450lbs race weight
This will go into my 2001 C5 which is a weekend fighter <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
MTI 422 motor
4.1" bore - 4.0" stroke - 11.2:1 compression ratio
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
not yet but shooting for 470+ rwhp through unlocked SY3500 converter & 3.73 gears
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Yes, car is tuned to run on 94 octane fuel
4) What cam?
244/244/114, max lift 610
5) What heads?
MTI stage 3 2.08/1.60 LS6 heads
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
not sure yet, but I got a custom tuned PCM & I requested 28 degrees.
7) Where did you make peak HP?
no data yet but I guess it'll be around 6400 rpm
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
No data yet
9) Goals for 2002?
don't care much about ET, but shooting for 128+ mph trap speed with about 3450lbs race weight
This will go into my 2001 C5 which is a weekend fighter <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nick Agostino:
<strong>sounds like a great package ! I will be in untill about 2:00 pm tomorrow.
Take care</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Damn, I hope I wake up in time to give you a call. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> I'll call you tomorrow.
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<strong>sounds like a great package ! I will be in untill about 2:00 pm tomorrow.
Take care</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Damn, I hope I wake up in time to give you a call. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> I'll call you tomorrow.
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1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
382 Stroker
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
435hp 429 tq
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
91 octane
4) What cam?
comp 224/224 .539 114
5) What heads?
Stage III hand Port
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6000
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
9) Goals for 2002?
new heads/cam (MTI), asp pullys, LS1 edit, cf driveshaft, lw flywheel, hopefully around 470-480 rwhp
382 Stroker
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
435hp 429 tq
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
91 octane
4) What cam?
comp 224/224 .539 114
5) What heads?
Stage III hand Port
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6000
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
9) Goals for 2002?
new heads/cam (MTI), asp pullys, LS1 edit, cf driveshaft, lw flywheel, hopefully around 470-480 rwhp
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1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
ARE 422, 4.100" Bore 4.000" Stroke, Aluminum re-sleeved block, 10.5:1 compression, LS6 intake
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
NA 6spd car
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
468 RWHP 478 RWTQ (418 RWTQ @ 2800 rpm peaks @ 5500 rpm and carries flat to 6200 rpm before it begins to slowly drop off) Sunoco 94 pump gas
4) What cam?
238/245 560/580 112 (something like that)
5) What heads?
ARE Stage 3 2.08/160
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
28 deg
7) Where did you make peak HP?
5600 rpm => 6500 rpm
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
NO Data as yet
9) Goals for 2002?
Refresh the motor, new cam, 1 7/8" Grotyohann headers, tuned for road manners, Body matched fuel rail covers and intake
<small>[ May 03, 2002, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: Warbird ]</small>
ARE 422, 4.100" Bore 4.000" Stroke, Aluminum re-sleeved block, 10.5:1 compression, LS6 intake
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
NA 6spd car
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
468 RWHP 478 RWTQ (418 RWTQ @ 2800 rpm peaks @ 5500 rpm and carries flat to 6200 rpm before it begins to slowly drop off) Sunoco 94 pump gas
4) What cam?
238/245 560/580 112 (something like that)
5) What heads?
ARE Stage 3 2.08/160
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
28 deg
7) Where did you make peak HP?
5600 rpm => 6500 rpm
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
NO Data as yet
9) Goals for 2002?
Refresh the motor, new cam, 1 7/8" Grotyohann headers, tuned for road manners, Body matched fuel rail covers and intake
<small>[ May 03, 2002, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: Warbird ]</small>
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Install date 5/21/02 at MMS. Frist install date on 4/15/02 missed because of a broken trannie.
1) 427 sleeved stoker
2) yet to be seen
3) yet to be seen
4) 224/224 .566" 114,
5) Stage 3
6) yet to be seen
7) yet to be seen
8) Have to learn to drive it but do know it's potential to be in the 10's with the right combo.
9) Just have fun driving it
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1) 427 sleeved stoker
2) yet to be seen
3) yet to be seen
4) 224/224 .566" 114,
5) Stage 3
6) yet to be seen
7) yet to be seen
8) Have to learn to drive it but do know it's potential to be in the 10's with the right combo.
9) Just have fun driving it
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I have a ? for all you ARE Super Stroker guys why didnt you go with LS6 Stage 3 heads they seem to make good power with the bigger cubes.
Jimmy <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />
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Here's mine:
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
MTI 422 - 4.1" bore, 4" stroke, LS6 intake, Dynatech stepped headers.
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
495 RWHP/489RWTQ on an M6 through 12 bolt and 3.73s.
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Numbers above were on pump gas.
4) What cam?
"R1" - 232/236 on a 114 LSA with .574/.578 max lift
5) What heads?
LS6 heads, "stage III" prepping/porting, with 2.08 intake and 1.62 exhaust valves
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
In process of changing some - gotta get O2 problem fixed.
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6150 RPM
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
Ask me in three weeks.
9) Goals for 2002?
Get rest of track-prepping items done (cage, slicks, torque arm) and get some times. Also, fix the annoying-as-hell O2 problem.
<small>[ May 04, 2002, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: WeatherGuy ]</small>
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
MTI 422 - 4.1" bore, 4" stroke, LS6 intake, Dynatech stepped headers.
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
495 RWHP/489RWTQ on an M6 through 12 bolt and 3.73s.
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
Numbers above were on pump gas.
4) What cam?
"R1" - 232/236 on a 114 LSA with .574/.578 max lift
5) What heads?
LS6 heads, "stage III" prepping/porting, with 2.08 intake and 1.62 exhaust valves
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
In process of changing some - gotta get O2 problem fixed.
7) Where did you make peak HP?
6150 RPM
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
Ask me in three weeks.
9) Goals for 2002?
Get rest of track-prepping items done (cage, slicks, torque arm) and get some times. Also, fix the annoying-as-hell O2 problem.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jimmy98Z:
<strong>I have a ? for all you ARE Super Stroker guys why didnt you go with LS6 Stage 3 heads they seem to make good power with the bigger cubes.
Jimmy <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For me it was a question of $$$$$. The 6.0L head cores can be had for $450 while the you'd be lucky to find a set of LS6 cores for less than $1000.
From what I hear the 6.0L heads aren't that bad compared to the LS6 heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
John
<strong>I have a ? for all you ARE Super Stroker guys why didnt you go with LS6 Stage 3 heads they seem to make good power with the bigger cubes.
Jimmy <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For me it was a question of $$$$$. The 6.0L head cores can be had for $450 while the you'd be lucky to find a set of LS6 cores for less than $1000.
From what I hear the 6.0L heads aren't that bad compared to the LS6 heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
John
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Trevor, we did about 6 pulls the final nite of tuning. Have been using LS1 Edit.
Because I had asked a few shops what timing they use at WOT, we dropped the timing from 31 to 28. Car lost HP not a huge amount it was like 5rwhp.
I wish some of you folks knew how much timing you have...
I did not do LS6 heads due to cost but I'd like to have a set of raceported ones since I have enuff bore to utilize the flow... And I will be dynotesting a custom intake in two weeks.
JOHN
Because I had asked a few shops what timing they use at WOT, we dropped the timing from 31 to 28. Car lost HP not a huge amount it was like 5rwhp.
I wish some of you folks knew how much timing you have...
I did not do LS6 heads due to cost but I'd like to have a set of raceported ones since I have enuff bore to utilize the flow... And I will be dynotesting a custom intake in two weeks.
JOHN
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Just how expensive are these ls6 ported heads? let's say a stage 3? I haven't seen anyone pricing them? anyone have a general idea?
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1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
ARE Resleeved 436ci LS1 (4.1 bore x 4.125 stroke) with Forged everything, ARP Head Studs, ARE Custom Main Studs
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
480rwhp / 495rwtq on Sunoco Ultra 94 Gas
4) What cam?
240/240 .608/.608 114LSA
5) What heads?
ARE Stage III w/ 2.08/1.60 valves and Dual Valvespring Setup
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
Dyno was done with 22 degrees at WOT but it is now at 24 degrees
7) Where did you make peak HP?
At 5800rpm. My 1 5/8" TTS Headers are probably holding back the peak power.
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
First time out: 11.68 @ 122mph w/ 1.907 60'
9) Goals for 2002?
Lotsa roadracing and autocrossing, maybe a few more 1/4 mile passes near the end of the year where it doesn't matter as much if I kill the clutch. Rollcage, Larger headers and 3" Xpipe are the plans for the fall/winter.
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ARE Resleeved 436ci LS1 (4.1 bore x 4.125 stroke) with Forged everything, ARP Head Studs, ARE Custom Main Studs
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
480rwhp / 495rwtq on Sunoco Ultra 94 Gas
4) What cam?
240/240 .608/.608 114LSA
5) What heads?
ARE Stage III w/ 2.08/1.60 valves and Dual Valvespring Setup
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
Dyno was done with 22 degrees at WOT but it is now at 24 degrees
7) Where did you make peak HP?
At 5800rpm. My 1 5/8" TTS Headers are probably holding back the peak power.
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
First time out: 11.68 @ 122mph w/ 1.907 60'
9) Goals for 2002?
Lotsa roadracing and autocrossing, maybe a few more 1/4 mile passes near the end of the year where it doesn't matter as much if I kill the clutch. Rollcage, Larger headers and 3" Xpipe are the plans for the fall/winter.
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This is my first project of any kind, it will be a steet car only, might see the track once or twice.
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
(ARE 436, don't know the details)
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
(Don't know yet, hoping for 470/470)
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
(same as #2)
4) What cam?
(227/227, I think)
5) What heads?
(ST III)
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
(Don't know yet)
7) Where did you make peak HP?
(Don't know yet)
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
(I hope it go's 10's, but low 11's will
be fine)
9) Goals for 2002?
(Get used to this one, then have a super-
charged super-stroker built by the end of the
year. ARE builds an F-1 package for the
F-Body that I may be interested in. Depends
on cash though!)
1) What is your engine combo, bore and stroke?
(ARE 436, don't know the details)
2) Dyno #'s? Locked/unlocked?
(Don't know yet, hoping for 470/470)
3) Dyno #'s on pump gas?
(same as #2)
4) What cam?
(227/227, I think)
5) What heads?
(ST III)
6) How much timing advance at WOT?
(Don't know yet)
7) Where did you make peak HP?
(Don't know yet)
8) Best ET and/or MPH for the roadracers?
(I hope it go's 10's, but low 11's will
be fine)
9) Goals for 2002?
(Get used to this one, then have a super-
charged super-stroker built by the end of the
year. ARE builds an F-1 package for the
F-Body that I may be interested in. Depends
on cash though!)