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Old 06-07-2002, 04:33 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nysbadmk8:
<strong>what kind of cam was used in mti's last dyno? 229? 227? etc.?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">MTI's new "X1" cam is a 230/227 .591/.571 112.
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well that thing makes my 224/224 570. look small

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nysbadmk8:
<strong>well that thing makes my 224/224 570. look small</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Indeed!
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**** man thats a big *** cam... i wonder how that thing idles... if it does!
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Hee hee hee....dude, if you haven't read the 2 threads concerning the X1, I suggest you do so...

Here's the first one that made the results of David's (poolfanatic) dyno pull known...

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=005313

And then, either follow the link at the end of that thread or follow this one here for the dyno sheet, flow chart, and the ensuing discussion:

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=005425

Seriously, lots of good reading in there.
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It actually idles better than my old "T1" did <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Much like you, my car's a daily driver so I didn't and can't have anything that doesn't start up and run right every day when I need it to, otherwise I'm walking!

And I hate to walk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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yea 27 mile walks at 6am ARE NOT my thing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> )
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I hear the new fast ramp cams idle awesome anyway.. Reverse split or not.. Makes me wonder how big you can go before it feels like a T1? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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those are some really nice numbers... three big things make our cars diffrent... cam size, stick car, ls6 heads
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I'm right there with you on that. I hate walking anytime, but 6am is the worst!

Nice setup you've got there! You'll be cracking 400 easy when you get some miles on the car.

I'd think about the pulley and ported TB as well. Quick and easy mods that should get you an extra 10-15 rwhp. I know all too well the problems with the pulley on the 5.0 engine (former mustang guy here too), but on the LS1 there doesn't seem to be any issues.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nysbadmk8:
<strong>yea 27 mile walks at 6am ARE NOT my thing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, come on, they aren't that bad.
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yea im scared shitless with pulleys.. but i guess its worth a try... the car has 1150miles on it right now and just got new head gaskets.. hopefully i can re-dyno soon... 445rwhp.. thats sweet
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Thanks! It's a helluva lot of fun to drive. I had some guy in a Civic try and take me on a few nights ago, now that was funny!

What gears are you running?

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right now i got 3.23's in there... im swapping for 3.73's soon.. but right now cash is tight.. after buying the 32k car and dumping 10k into it.. i really cant afford anymore... im going to try and do a little Ot at work so i can get a ported tb, gears, new maf, and underdrives... what underdrives should i get? asp makes two diffrent kinds?
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yea first night when i got the car back.. some kin in a v-6 accord alll riced out wanted to race... youd think just the sound of the car would shut them up ( flp lt's with or pipes out of a slp lm ITS LOUD"
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Why was my post deleted? I simply asked how one car can dyno 440-450rwhp and the next one 390rwhp with the same packages? It doesn't seem very consistant to me!
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> Terry,
Nice try.
You know that this is a Cartek Stage 2 setup with LS1 heads & HS cam as stated in the thread previously. His results are on par with their Stage 2 H/C setups in an A4.

The packages making 440-460 rwhp are the Stage X and Stage Z package. Different packages with different cams.

The only thing that MMS H/C packages do consistently are break valve springs. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
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I just picked up the regular ASP crank pulley and a new belt from Thunder. They're hard to come by so you'll probably have to do some checking, unless TR still has some in stock.

Good call on the 3.73's. That's what I've got in mine and I haven't broken them yet. Get a TA girdle as well, it helps tremendously to hold everything together.

When it finally goes to pieces, I'll put 4.10's in my 12 bolt, but until then these will do the job.

I hear you on the money thing. Between the engine, wheels, brakes and exhaust I've sunk $13K into mine in the last two months. Glad I've got a good paying job or I couldn't support this habit!
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I think with a ported TB and a 85mm LS6/Z06 MAF you are at 400rwhp.

I have no prior UD pulley experience prior to my Formula, but I have never had charging problems, and it's probably worth 5-7rwhp too. I have the ASP crank UD pulley.
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David, since he has an A4, I'd recommend ASP's alternator pulley as well, wouldn't you?
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I would not do the alternator pulley, my voltage is at 13 straight up at idle, and if I had both I'd be in the red at idle, not worth it IMO.
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