VINCE

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I want to know how many people dyno over 400rwhp minus dyno tricks and cutouts. I keep hearing the same names over and over and I know most people have H/C packages now. I want SAE #'s. Not STD #'s.

<small>[ July 19, 2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: VINCE ]</small>

Brownie

Well I don't have any dyno tricks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> but I do have an M6, stock 10 bolt with 3.42s. Stock WS6 wheels with tires at 28 psi. I am running the offroads on my FLPs.

Detail in sig.

Mike

verbs

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I want to know how many people dyno over 400rwhp minus dyno tricks and cutouts. I keep hearing the same names over and over and I know most people have H/C packages now. I want SAE #'s. Not STD #'s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not there yet, but I'm only 30rwhp away from it now w/ stock internals, and adding a TR 230 cam and TEA heads will put me way over that mark without a cutout.

I guess you could call my aluminum flywheel, fuel pressure regulator, and carbon fiber driveshaft "dyno tricks" but they just counteract my big *** 33 spline 12 bolt w/ 3.73's if anything. If you run your car like that every day anyway, that wouldn't really be much of a dyno trick IMO.

Having grott headers and a 3" dual exhaust flows very well IMO...so a cutout wouldn't do much for me anyway.

<small>[ July 19, 2002, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>

DERTY

403 At the rear. Thought that was pretty good. Performance wise I'm only using a ARE Stage 2 head setup with a 224/224 114 .581 cam. 1 7/8 Grot headers with the catted Y and a Corsa. Some dyno tuning at ARE and there you have it. Rest of the details are on my homepage.

I'm battling some misfire issues right now, but I think they are unrelated. Hopefully I'll get them resolved tomorrow.

VINCE

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Verb I do not count CFDS, fuel pressure regulators, or alum flywheels as dyno tricks. My flywheels is heavy as hell. Even heavier than my stock, but I like the way it grabs. I am sure I am losing some horsepower on the dyno with that. How much, who knows?

Jason99T/A

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Vince, what flywheel do you have?

jmX

405rwhp through my B&B triflo catback
415rwhp through a cutout

Smoke_ur_5.0

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I would only loose about 3hp and and 9tq when we put on the random tech muffler. Other wise we ran with an open intermediate pipe over the axle. Also I use 315's on 17x11's to dyno on with the stock serpentine belt, stock drive shaft. No dyno tricks here. Have a true dual system now with bullets but don't consider that a dyno trick since that's how I drive it everyday.

TrahnZam WS6

Not going to post my last numbers Vince, but you know em <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Chalk up another 420+ rwhp car with no cutout, 17X11s, stock flywheel and driveshaft, no icing, untuned.

VINCE

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Jason my flywheel came with my Centerforce DF clutch kit. I should have had the stock flywheel resurfaced and put it back in. I lift weights and I can feel the weight difference between the two flywheels. My Z06 flywheel is much lighter..

JPR

We have alot of 400 RWH plus cars dynoing through Mac or FLP cats with Borla's or Corsas cat backs as high as 418.

Joe

VINCE

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I just want to hear from them Joe. I was chatting with a friend and we were amazed how some H/C cars never make 400rwhp and some dyno 440rwhp. I know combos are different, but even the same combos show atleast a 20rwhp difference..

verbs

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I just want to hear from them Joe. I was chatting with a friend and we were amazed how some H/C cars never make 400rwhp and some dyno 440rwhp. I know combos are different, but even the same combos show atleast a 20rwhp difference..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Vince, I think tuning is a big part of it. Some are tuned some aren't.

Some have big 12 bolts and 4.10 gears, some have stock rear ends and 3.42's.

Some are running through big torque converters...

You get the idea.....while the heads cam package may be the same, the surrounding components may not be. Not to mention every car is different.

VINCE

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I agree Verb.., but when both cars are adding things at the same rate and the only difference is the vendor that does the heads. 20rwhp to 40rwhp is a big difference. Justin and Chris from Thunder Racing were going on the same path. They dyno'd within 4rwhp of each other on stock heads. Chris chose GTP and Justin chose another company. If I remember correctly they are running similar bolt ons down to the rear. If not I am sure one of them will correct me. I do not think going from a stock rear to a 12 bolt would kill almost 50rwhp. I admit GTP is good, but that is a big difference over the competitors. ARE puts out awesome cars. Their track times reflect bigger #'s than their dyno #'s. Why is that?

Sears

Yes Chris with the GTP/TR224 dynoed 443rhwp through the Borla + a bullet muffler, stock flywheel, driveshaft, SS wheels, 12bolt with 4.10s, GTP 5.3L heads milled .15 thousandths.

Justin

VINCE

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I hate Chris.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 40rwhp higher than mine..

Patrick G

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I dynoed 405 rwhp through my closed up SLP dual dual muffler, 414 with it open...granted mine is an A4.

poolfanatic

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445 RWHP with MTI Stg II LS6 Heads/X1 Cam.

That's with Hooker Longtubes, a custom y-pipe and a Borla XR-1 muffler. Stock 10 bolt with 3.73's turning 17 x 11 drag radials.

verbs

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I do not think going from a stock rear to a 12 bolt would kill almost 50rwhp. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, if going from 3.42's to 4.10's on a stock rear reduces dyno figures by about 10rwhp, I'm sure a 12 bolt w/ 4.10's would be a 15rwhp loss.

VINCE

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I know my heads suck. I am not denying that. I am trying to understand the 50rwhp differences. I know tuning has a lot to do with it. MattG said he has no tuning and dyno'd 445rwhp.. Hmmm