TR230/224 re-dyno w/ 4.56 gears (stock heads)
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We had time at the shop this evening to re-baseline the car with the 4.56 gears I added awhile back to replace the 4.30s in my 12-bolt. I also added a new 3.5" aluminum driveshaft at the same time. Here is what the car re-baselined through the y-pipe/cutout(no open headers):
http://hometown.aol.com/jason99ta20/...r_230_456s.jpg
Here is a comparison with the 430s/456s:
http://hometown.aol.com/jason99ta20/..._430vs_456.jpg
Needless to say, I was pretty happy considering I have beat the living crap out of the car in the last 3-4 months and the motor seems to be still going strong.
Open headers are worth a solid 10hp/tq on my car, but we didn't have time to make any passes with it like that. It dynoed 410rwhp/389rwtq like that w/ 4:30s.
That looks like all I'll be getting out of this setup. My GTP stage 2 truck heads arrived a few weeks back. I'll be installing those real shortly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
It won't be a direct comparison since I'm going to be installing JE pistons and Lunati rods at the same time. I'll also be installing a new cam, but I'll keep that quiet for the time being. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> This motor is being built to turn past 7k rpms. Hence the need for some better internals.
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http://hometown.aol.com/jason99ta20/...r_230_456s.jpg
Here is a comparison with the 430s/456s:
http://hometown.aol.com/jason99ta20/..._430vs_456.jpg
Needless to say, I was pretty happy considering I have beat the living crap out of the car in the last 3-4 months and the motor seems to be still going strong.
Open headers are worth a solid 10hp/tq on my car, but we didn't have time to make any passes with it like that. It dynoed 410rwhp/389rwtq like that w/ 4:30s.
That looks like all I'll be getting out of this setup. My GTP stage 2 truck heads arrived a few weeks back. I'll be installing those real shortly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
It won't be a direct comparison since I'm going to be installing JE pistons and Lunati rods at the same time. I'll also be installing a new cam, but I'll keep that quiet for the time being. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> This motor is being built to turn past 7k rpms. Hence the need for some better internals.
Jason
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
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Nice numbers Jason!
I look forward to hearing about your new setup. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
I look forward to hearing about your new setup. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This motor is being built to turn past 7k rpms. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Geee, maybe you should consider a solid roller set-up. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
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jason, i dont understand why you gain 10 RWHP with open headers and most lose power, esp TQ with open headers. i have a large cam of 230/230 .574 111 LSA and i am affraid of opening the cutouts (i have dual off the y-pipe). what makes your car different to GAIN power with the cutouts (open headers)?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This motor is being built to turn past 7k rpms. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Geee, maybe you should consider a solid roller set-up. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was a thought, but I think I'll stay hydraulic this time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
gator, you have to look at the entire setup of the car. Cam selection, tuning, quality of y-pipe, etc. all play a big role in if the car will pick up power or not with open headers. 9 times out of 10 is has to do with the tuning.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This motor is being built to turn past 7k rpms. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Geee, maybe you should consider a solid roller set-up. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was a thought, but I think I'll stay hydraulic this time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
gator, you have to look at the entire setup of the car. Cam selection, tuning, quality of y-pipe, etc. all play a big role in if the car will pick up power or not with open headers. 9 times out of 10 is has to do with the tuning.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>i guess i need TR tuning! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or a reverse split cam that loves open exhaust...
<strong>i guess i need TR tuning! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or a reverse split cam that loves open exhaust...
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>i guess i need TR tuning! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or a reverse split cam that loves open exhaust...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL.. I was about to post the same thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>i guess i need TR tuning! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or a reverse split cam that loves open exhaust...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL.. I was about to post the same thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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what can I say Jason <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Great numbers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Good luck
Great numbers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Good luck