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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Default NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I'm experiencing a little knock, thought I would try the TR6's since I already have the cooler stat and run 93 octane. Any thoughts on running these plugs on a stock internals, no N2O N/A LS1?

Would I gap them the recommended gap of .060 or go a bit smaller, say .050?
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

i'm not sure about this but it was recomended to me by a shop to run the tr6's on my motor (stock except the cam) and to gap them at .040. i don't know really why, but it was suggested to me once
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I run them in my car. Gap set at .050, this is what thunder racing told me to do. No problems with them so far. I'm N/A as well

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I would highly recommed you try the TR6's.

Most of the "old timers" have been doing it for years to combat knock... especially in the summer months.

Good luck.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

These are great replies, thanks!
Only thing I see as a potential problem is gapping them to .050. I know I have read somewhere that you shouldnt change the preset gap more than +/- .010 (The TR6's come pre gapped to .035)

Am I wrong in that belief?
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

Doug, that is a rule of thumb, not a law. But you will be ok gapping to .050.

Some say you lose NA power with 6's, but if not gapped right you will with any plug. I run them, yeah N2O also, but normal driving is on the 6's and no problems, i even run a tighter gap .038".

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...


I've run TR-6's for around a year now, gapped at .38" also. No problems at all, car runs excellent.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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I've been running TR6's gapped at 0.044" for years now. As John pointed out, I did it initially to combat KR. Worked really well too.

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

Just stay away from the Bosch platinum +4's. I just put mine in and had one hot day last week, and the car was knocking all over the place.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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I hear you NataSS about the Platinum 4s...for some odd reason I decided to switch from my TR-55s and go with the Bosches....stupid stupid me! My car ran pretty good when I put them in, but once this Texas heat rolled in, my car has been running like poo! I went ahead and ordered some NGK Iridiums yesterday...my car should thank me...I hope. I heard a lot of good things about these plugs except that they are one of the expensive kinds. I hope they work all right. - Pat
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

NGK'S are some of the best plugs i've run. take these other guys advise about the bosch's they are a tad too hot for our motors, especially if you've upped the cr. i can get away w/ 28* total w/ the Ngk's and 11.2:1, in my iron motor.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I had the TR6s in my 98, at .044, when I ran my 12.68 at 110.6. According to Autotap I got no spark retard at all, even in fourth gear at WOT, and I even had a ported MAF and the HPP3 tuning.

So these plugs do help keep detonation away.

They don't last long though, I only got 13k out of them before they fouled up good.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

Pat-Man...the NGK 'I's are cheaper than the Denso Iridiums. What number plug, I am trying to find out what the equivalent to the TR6 is in Iridium and then one colder for a DP-200shot.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Hey, who is this new "Pat-Man"?
And he has an LS1 too...
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Hey, who is this new "Pat-Man"?
And he has an LS1 too...

Don't worry, I'll have another one someday, next one will be a C5 though!
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Hello...I am the new Pat-Man. I'm jumpcable over at LS1.com. I actually just got my NGK Iridiums today and I am waiting to install them once my headers come in for my cam swap. See you all on the boards. - Pat
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I always gap TR6's at .050 for NA applications. As long as you stay within .010 of the stock gap reccomended for a car it's fine.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

13k! Ummm... I've had mine gapped at .38 for about 22k or so now. The car is running fine, no knocking at all. Am I losing power? I'm getting ready to do the mods listed in my sig below in about three weeks. Should I stay with the TR-6's gapped at .050? Someone recommended TR-55's at .050.
BTW: Is there any ill effects to leaving a plug in too long even if it's not knocking or misifiring? i.e. harder to get back out. I hope I don't break one off in there when I go to remove them. Thanks.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Default Re: NGK TR6 on a N/A engine and no N20...

I'd only go .038 for a mild nitrous application. Car might idle a bit better and have hotter spark with .048 and burn the fuel better.

With my blown application my plugs are gapped at .035.
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