Any 416/418 strokers with TFS 225s and Fast 92 setups?
04-11-2009, 05:23 PM
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Any 416/418 strokers with TFS 225s and Fast 92 setups? I want to do a stroker and reuse my TFS225s and Ported Fast 92 and want more cubes than a 402. And I also want it to be daily driveable. What kinda power could it make with the right cam to match the heads/intake mani/ and exhaust setup. Would it last 100,000 miles if its not beatin on everyday?
04-15-2009, 08:06 AM
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i just did a 416 with afr 225 heads and a real small cam,made 500rwhp in a m6 f body,very driveable tons of low end tq-i really like a 235 or 245 head on a 416 though
as for lasting 100,000 miles-i don't think any stroker will last that long-i have seen many with 30,000+miles
as for lasting 100,000 miles-i don't think any stroker will last that long-i have seen many with 30,000+miles
04-15-2009, 10:23 AM
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I want to do a stroker and reuse my TFS225s and Ported Fast 92 and want more cubes than a 402. And I also want it to be daily driveable. What kinda power could it make with the right cam to match the heads/intake mani/ and exhaust setup. Would it last 100,000 miles if its not beatin on everyday?
How long any engine lasts has everything to do with how it was built, tuned and used. We have tons of OEM stuff with just heads and cam or cam only or totally stock that didn't make 100K and then there's some that are fine at 200k.
With power adders especially NOS you are really treading on thin ice but we have some guys that have been around forever on the same engine making crazy power. It means to me that their tuning abilities are very very good!
04-15-2009, 08:32 PM
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I have a 416 with TFS225 and a 243/247 ~.620 lift cam. My last dyno was 485/455 SAE (501/499 uncorrected). I also have LG Pro headers, 3.90 gears, and Stock Ti exhaust. The compression is 11:1.
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get nice so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get nice so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
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TFS225s are a great head and will work fine on that 416. We have about 6 strokers that I know have over 100K but most people keep changing things so it's hard to tell.
How long any engine lasts has everything to do with how it was built, tuned and used. We have tons of OEM stuff with just heads and cam or cam only or totally stock that didn't make 100K and then there's some that are fine at 200k.
With power adders especially NOS you are really treading on thin ice but we have some guys that have been around forever on the same engine making crazy power. It means to me that their tuning abilities are very very good!
How long any engine lasts has everything to do with how it was built, tuned and used. We have tons of OEM stuff with just heads and cam or cam only or totally stock that didn't make 100K and then there's some that are fine at 200k.
With power adders especially NOS you are really treading on thin ice but we have some guys that have been around forever on the same engine making crazy power. It means to me that their tuning abilities are very very good!
04-16-2009, 09:35 AM
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I have a 416 with TFS225 and a 243/247 ~.620 lift cam. My last dyno was 485/455 SAE (501/499 uncorrected). I also have LG Pro headers, 3.90 gears, and Stock Ti exhaust. The compression is 11:1.
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
[IMG]http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/potacamos/Note.jpg[IMG]
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
[IMG]http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/potacamos/Note.jpg[IMG]
04-16-2009, 09:41 AM
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i can speak first hand on several Lingenfelter built 383's. one person on this board is the second owner...the car has been raced to death for over 60k miles..it was built by lpe back in 93 (thats right 1993) i would venture to say the car has over 10,000 passes down the track and several thousand street races....its as good as new...
04-16-2009, 10:52 AM
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Yeah my personal Ford small block 302 - 37x something has gone 155K with no issues so it's all about application and duty cycle you have. I had a stroke a full .200 more than everyone thought was the max and I had zero issues with that engine. I just need more power so I am going big Windsor now!
04-16-2009, 11:38 AM
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Yeah my personal Ford small block 302 - 37x something has gone 155K with no issues so it's all about application and duty cycle you have. I had a stroke a full .200 more than everyone thought was the max and I had zero issues with that engine. I just need more power so I am going big Windsor now!
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04-16-2009, 01:42 PM
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I have a 416 with TFS225 and a 243/247 ~.620 lift cam. My last dyno was 485/455 SAE (501/499 uncorrected). I also have LG Pro headers, 3.90 gears, and Stock Ti exhaust. The compression is 11:1.
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
I previously had a smaller cam that dynoed almost the same (478/459 SAE and 505/484 uncorrected). I really thought this setup would produce more power. It is hard not to get disappointed about dyno number when you are expecting/hoping for something higher (500+). The weather is finally starting to get so I will be able to take it to the track soon.
Here is the SAE graph with both cams.
What intake manifold? Maybe somewhat of a limiter? I would agree, I would have hoped for more
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I have a FAST 90 and LS2 tb. Both are ported. I also have 42lb injectors, LPE 255lph fuel pump, vararam, and no cats.
Three different dynos, two different tuners, and two cams have all resulted in almost identical numbers. The headers may be holding me back a little on the top end but it seems the torque should then be higher. From searching the forums, it appears that 3.90 gears may lower dyno numbers but I have not found a definitive answer on this.
Three different dynos, two different tuners, and two cams have all resulted in almost identical numbers. The headers may be holding me back a little on the top end but it seems the torque should then be higher. From searching the forums, it appears that 3.90 gears may lower dyno numbers but I have not found a definitive answer on this.
built my 402 it's alot of fun. check sig.
04-17-2009, 02:04 PM
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Check my sig for my 416 combo and numbers. Cam is in the 248/254 area with alot of exhaust lift on a 112+2 LSA. Running 11.8 scr on a pretty conservative tune. Cam has alot of overlap (27*), but after much street tuning driveability is not bad at all. Combo was spec'd and tweaked by one of the best in the business! (Pete Incaudo) To say I'm happy with the results is an understatement! 
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