will my cam meet my goal?
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will my cam meet my goal?
my gf bought me a btr stag4 na cam for my ls 2 gto for vday. I'm wondering if it will make the power I want. My goal is 450+whp cam only if I port my heads my goal 480-500+ whp (still debating on if I want to port the heads)
here the cam link http://www.briantooleyracing.com/nat...-camshaft.html
also if I decide on switching the heads what heads would you guys go with my budget (1500-2000)
I'm sorry if my question are kind of of dumb I'm new to lsx I'm coming form a 04 gt 2v making 617whp
Here are the parts I have for my 06 gto already
kooks step headers
kooks off road pipes
corsa cat-back
duspeed cold air
btr stage 4 cam na
ls 7 lifter
rocker upgrade
arp studs n gasket
slp underdrive pulley
fast 102 with a nw 102 tb
ls6 ported oil pump
one piece ds
mgw-p
I know I still need a clutch also unsure on the brand im going with as ill be spraying a 150 shot also
here the cam link http://www.briantooleyracing.com/nat...-camshaft.html
also if I decide on switching the heads what heads would you guys go with my budget (1500-2000)
I'm sorry if my question are kind of of dumb I'm new to lsx I'm coming form a 04 gt 2v making 617whp
Here are the parts I have for my 06 gto already
kooks step headers
kooks off road pipes
corsa cat-back
duspeed cold air
btr stage 4 cam na
ls 7 lifter
rocker upgrade
arp studs n gasket
slp underdrive pulley
fast 102 with a nw 102 tb
ls6 ported oil pump
one piece ds
mgw-p
I know I still need a clutch also unsure on the brand im going with as ill be spraying a 150 shot also
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The reality is that this cam will get you awfully close to (if not above) 500 HP at the wheels with ported/aftermarket heads. At the same time, with OEM heads, your piston/valve clearance will be VERY minimal....more-so if the heads have to be milled.
I'd recommend going with a set of aftermarket heads with 12 or 13 degree valve angles.....maybe even have them milled to yield about 11.5:1 compression with .041" compressed head gaskets.
KW
I'd recommend going with a set of aftermarket heads with 12 or 13 degree valve angles.....maybe even have them milled to yield about 11.5:1 compression with .041" compressed head gaskets.
KW
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The reality is that this cam will get you awfully close to (if not above) 500 HP at the wheels with ported/aftermarket heads. At the same time, with OEM heads, your piston/valve clearance will be VERY minimal....more-so if the heads have to be milled.
I'd recommend going with a set of aftermarket heads with 12 or 13 degree valve angles.....maybe even have them milled to yield about 11.5:1 compression with .041" compressed head gaskets.
KW
I'd recommend going with a set of aftermarket heads with 12 or 13 degree valve angles.....maybe even have them milled to yield about 11.5:1 compression with .041" compressed head gaskets.
KW
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MMS220 Heads and see if Brian would let you exchange your stage
4 cam for his stage 2! MMS 220 Heads with 227*/231* made 480+ RWHP
With a 5.7 LS1. With a 6.0 you should clear 500+ RWHP and be MUCH
MORE Driveable with a smaller cam. Stage 2 is 227*/234* Stage 4
Is 235*/242* Big difference if car is daily driver!
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4 cam for his stage 2! MMS 220 Heads with 227*/231* made 480+ RWHP
With a 5.7 LS1. With a 6.0 you should clear 500+ RWHP and be MUCH
MORE Driveable with a smaller cam. Stage 2 is 227*/234* Stage 4
Is 235*/242* Big difference if car is daily driver!
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http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3961-pr...m-package.aspx
For your stated budget, aftermarket heads are a bit of a reach, and that 235* cam will have drivability issues for a stock displacement engine with less than 11.5:1 CR.
IMHO, of course.
KW
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Before you get to ahead of yourself.... don't use LS7 lifters!! Invest in morels 5315 lifters. Much better quality and smoother operation. The 225 trickflow head is nice... but as always you'll need a intake and a GREAT cam to meet your goals.
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Should I be worry about needing more fuel then stock can handle?
I'm thinking about ordering a ported fast 102 form vr They worth the extra coin??
I heard the video of the black gto running the btr stage 4 cam in fell in love with the sound
I'm thinking about ordering a ported fast 102 form vr They worth the extra coin??
I heard the video of the black gto running the btr stage 4 cam in fell in love with the sound
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money getting tight on this build I'm wondering if I can use btr rocker upgrade on my tf heads with the stock ls2 rockers
also may have just scored a fast 102 and dbw 102 nw for 900 bucks next week going to be like xmas with the duspeed, fast 102 and tb, tfs 225 coming in the mail
also may have just scored a fast 102 and dbw 102 nw for 900 bucks next week going to be like xmas with the duspeed, fast 102 and tb, tfs 225 coming in the mail
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Well just curious have you checked into a ls3 head and intake combo? When I had my 06 m6 gto.
I ran the torquer 2. 232/234 cam. Ps longtubes and magnaflow catback. Was at 423 rwhp. Put on a ls3 intake with the stock 42lb ls3 injectors. Ls3 heads with thinner gaskets to keep my compression at 11.0
And I jumped to 461/423 na. Intake and heads were not touched. Car ran consistently 11.6's at 118 in hot Midwest air. But I remember I only had 1k. In the heads and intake/injectors setup. Might save some money going that route and have some left to port the intake and heads. Just a thought. I had enough injector also at 461 rwhp. Just not sure if you would have ptv clearance with that cam you have.
I ran the torquer 2. 232/234 cam. Ps longtubes and magnaflow catback. Was at 423 rwhp. Put on a ls3 intake with the stock 42lb ls3 injectors. Ls3 heads with thinner gaskets to keep my compression at 11.0
And I jumped to 461/423 na. Intake and heads were not touched. Car ran consistently 11.6's at 118 in hot Midwest air. But I remember I only had 1k. In the heads and intake/injectors setup. Might save some money going that route and have some left to port the intake and heads. Just a thought. I had enough injector also at 461 rwhp. Just not sure if you would have ptv clearance with that cam you have.
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Well just curious have you checked into a ls3 head and intake combo? When I had my 06 m6 gto.
I ran the torquer 2. 232/234 cam. Ps longtubes and magnaflow catback. Was at 423 rwhp. Put on a ls3 intake with the stock 42lb ls3 injectors. Ls3 heads with thinner gaskets to keep my compression at 11.0
And I jumped to 461/423 na. Intake and heads were not touched. Car ran consistently 11.6's at 118 in hot Midwest air. But I remember I only had 1k. In the heads and intake/injectors setup. Might save some money going that route and have some left to port the intake and heads. Just a thought. I had enough injector also at 461 rwhp. Just not sure if you would have ptv clearance with that cam you have.
I ran the torquer 2. 232/234 cam. Ps longtubes and magnaflow catback. Was at 423 rwhp. Put on a ls3 intake with the stock 42lb ls3 injectors. Ls3 heads with thinner gaskets to keep my compression at 11.0
And I jumped to 461/423 na. Intake and heads were not touched. Car ran consistently 11.6's at 118 in hot Midwest air. But I remember I only had 1k. In the heads and intake/injectors setup. Might save some money going that route and have some left to port the intake and heads. Just a thought. I had enough injector also at 461 rwhp. Just not sure if you would have ptv clearance with that cam you have.
Thanks for the reply but I already pull the trigger on Tf 225 heads. Decide to try in get the most I can out of a stock ls2
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Tha cam should be fine to drive with, it's similar to a CompCam that I fitted to friends manual LS2 GTO.
Specs are 235 243 .621" .624" 113.
Cam change took car from 13.9 to 12.20 on the track.
Specs are 235 243 .621" .624" 113.
Cam change took car from 13.9 to 12.20 on the track.