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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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I can see the travel. Sometimes metallurgical issues can't be taken into the home lab, or sometimes any lab at all. Then it becomes field work......
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I can see the travel. Sometimes metallurgical issues can't be taken into the home lab, or sometimes any lab at all. Then it becomes field work......
My home lab is my TA
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
My home lab is my TA
As it should be! lol
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:03 PM
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I thought to post the following in Darth's thread as it is relevant to his build.
A fellow Citizen of Australia has a similar combo to this but on an lsx 454 engine.
He has the same heads and intake as Darth but without the titanium intake option.
He has set a dyno record of 694rwhp so far with the likely possibility it will eclipse the 700rwhp marker once the tune for E85 is complete.
This just shows that the BS plastic intakes don't work.
Or do they?




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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I thought to post the following in Darth's thread as it is relevant to his build.
A fellow Citizen of Australia has a similar combo to this but on an lsx 454 engine.
He has the same heads and intake as Darth but without the titanium intake option.
He has set a dyno record of 694rwhp so far with the likely possibility it will eclipse the 700rwhp marker once the tune for E85 is complete.
This just shows that the BS plastic intakes don't work.
Or do they?
You know better than that!! Bad, Bort. Someone should rub your nose in that post and smack you with a newspaper.
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:15 PM
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Lol!!! Good stuff. Mamo ttf
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:25 PM
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Haha.
Should I be laughing or crying?
That is the BS question.

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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I thought to post the following in Darth's thread as it is relevant to his build.
A fellow Citizen of Australia has a similar combo to this but on an lsx 454 engine.
He has the same heads and intake as Darth but without the titanium intake option.
He has set a dyno record of 694rwhp so far with the likely possibility it will eclipse the 700rwhp marker once the tune for E85 is complete.
This just shows that the BS plastic intakes don't work.
Or do they?
They work for an intake that's meant to fit under a stock hood. There's another Mamo 454 that made 700whp in the states with a ported MSD. Went off and ran 198mph in the mile the same weekend.
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
They work for an intake that's meant to fit under a stock hood. There's another Mamo 454 that made 700whp in the states with a ported MSD. Went off and ran 198mph in the mile the same weekend.
This one also has the ported MSD.
It's mental.
Quite possibly once of the best packages you can get that is also streetable.
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
This one also has the ported MSD.
It's mental.
Quite possibly once of the best packages you can get that is also streetable.
That really is his intended market I think. the few of us that buy his stuff and then race with it are a small minority.
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 10:09 AM
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In the LS7 world, I've seen a bunch of dyno numbers but no trap speeds to back them up. I admit, he's a great salesman. I don't like some of the components he pushes and the price ultimately pushed me away at the time. I did run his ported MSD for a while.
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
In the LS7 world, I've seen a bunch of dyno numbers but no trap speeds to back them up. I admit, he's a great salesman. I don't like some of the components he pushes and the price ultimately pushed me away at the time. I did run his ported MSD for a while.
What components don't you like that he sells?
And why what is wrong and they don't meet your standard?
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
In the LS7 world, I've seen a bunch of dyno numbers but no trap speeds to back them up. I admit, he's a great salesman. I don't like some of the components he pushes and the price ultimately pushed me away at the time. I did run his ported MSD for a while.
Yeah. On the 220's, I was the only trap speed I know of. On the LS7 stuff, the only one i'm aware of is the 198 mph standing mile. I was planning to see what my trap would be which would back up the dyno numbers. Honestly I was more interested int he trap than the dyno, but delays...
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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OK, so update time. It is on me. I am positive I got the pushrod up on the ledge. The pics will make sense. Everything is collateral damage from the pushrod. I should have pulled the head as soon as it happened, but I didn't. That said, here is the carnage now that I know the fault lies with me. Motor should come all the way out tonight. Cam Motion worked out a deal with me to help out, even though it's on me. They're a great vendor for sure. So, order of events....

1. Pushrod set up on the ledge, not in the cup
2. Pushrod comes out and goes between the link bar and lifter
3. Link bar binds up, and this pulls the lifters inward and causes the lifter body to break under the link bar rivets
4. Lifters not free to rotate and the exhaust side scrubs the lobe badly until it gets worn enough to knock the roller off.
5. You can see through the window in the block on the last pic that the lifter was hit on an angle, not straight on, so it definitely happened after the link bar separation, not before.

I can confirm the intake side lifter bore is still pristine. So if nothing got damaged and it's just a clean-up, this may not be as bad as it could have been.






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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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Totally sux. Whats gunna happen with the cylinder head? Fixable?
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rkupon1
Totally sux. Whats gunna happen with the cylinder head? Fixable?
Yup. Weld repair. Its not in a structural spot
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
OK, so update time. It is on me. I am positive I got the pushrod up on the ledge. The pics will make sense. Everything is collateral damage from the pushrod. I should have pulled the head as soon as it happened, but I didn't. That said, here is the carnage now that I know the fault lies with me. Motor should come all the way out tonight. Cam Motion worked out a deal with me to help out, even though it's on me. They're a great vendor for sure. So, order of events....

1. Pushrod set up on the ledge, not in the cup
2. Pushrod comes out and goes between the link bar and lifter
3. Link bar binds up, and this pulls the lifters inward and causes the lifter body to break under the link bar rivets
4. Lifters not free to rotate and the exhaust side scrubs the lobe badly until it gets worn enough to knock the roller off.
5. You can see through the window in the block on the last pic that the lifter was hit on an angle, not straight on, so it definitely happened after the link bar separation, not before.

I can confirm the intake side lifter bore is still pristine. So if nothing got damaged and it's just a clean-up, this may not be as bad as it could have been.








Damn darth.
What an oversight.
You can never be too careful.
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Im blaming the Fbody chassis, doubt he woulda missed this on an engine stand. Half da motor coverd by the cowl.
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rkupon1
Im blaming the Fbody chassis, doubt he woulda missed this on an engine stand. Half da motor coverd by the cowl.
its a total pain in the dick
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 06:51 PM
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Sorry you get to deal with this hassle, but at least none of the *real* expensive parts were ruined permanently.

Thanks for the reminder to go super slow when I start putting mine together (first LS I've had apart).
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