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I need help with all of the bolts and sensors that I will need for this GenIV engine to go into my 99 TA. I am going to sell the LS1 as a complete drop-out. I am only keeping the throttle body forward and the bellhousing back.
BLOCK
Block plugs – I think I am going to get the ICT Billet kit.
Valley Cover bolts – ARP. Not sure if the MSD intake comes with shorter ones like the FAST intake did.
Valley Cover – Improved Racing LS3
Crank sensor – I assume LS1 will work?
Engine Coolant Sensor – I assume LS1 will work?
Oil Pressure Sensor – Do I get GenIII or GenIV?
ROTATING ASSEMBLY
Rod bolts – ARP
Main stud kit – ARP
HEADS/CAM/INTAKE
Valve cover bolts – ARP
Intake manifold bolts – ARP
Head bolts – ARP
Cam bolt – ARP
ENGINE ASSEMBLY
Oil pan – Will an F-Body oil pan work?
Oil pan bolts
Oil dip stick – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Oil dip stick tube – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Oil pickup tube – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Rear cover bolts – ARP
Crank bolt – ARP
Timing Cover TX Speed
Cam Sensor part of Timing Cover
Timing Cover gasket part of Timing Cover
Timing cover bolts part of Timing Cover
ENGINE INSTALLATION
Motor mount bolts – ARP
knock sensors LS1
Knock Sensor/Cam sensor adaptor wire
K-Member
Header Gasket
Header bolts – Stage8
Last edited by FCar2000TA; 04-06-2021 at 07:35 PM.
I need help with all of the bolts and sensors that I will need for this GenIV engine to go into my 99 TA. I am going to sell the LS1 as a complete drop-out. I am only keeping the throttle body forward and the bellhousing back.
BLOCK
Block plugs – I think I am going to get the ICT Billet kit.
Valley Cover bolts – ARP. Not sure if the MSD intake comes with shorter ones like the FAST intake did.
Valley Cover – Improved Racing LS3
Crank sensor – I assume LS1 will work?
Engine Coolant Sensor – I assume LS1 will work?
Oil Pressure Sensor – Do I get GenIII or GenIV?
ROTATING ASSEMBLY
Rod bolts – ARP
Main stud kit – ARP
HEADS/CAM/INTAKE
Valve cover bolts – ARP
Intake manifold bolts – ARP
Head bolts – ARP
Cam bolt – ARP
ENGINE ASSEMBLY
Oil pan – Will an F-Body oil pan work?
Oil pan bolts
Oil dip stick – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Oil dip stick tube – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Oil pickup tube – F-Body ,C6, or GTO?
Rear cover bolts – ARP
Crank bolt – ARP
Timing Cover TX Speed
Cam Sensor part of Timing Cover
Timing Cover gasket part of Timing Cover
Timing cover bolts part of Timing Cover
ENGINE INSTALLATION
Motor mount bolts – ARP
knock sensors LS1
Knock Sensor/Cam sensor adaptor wire
K-Member
Header Gasket
Header bolts – Stage8
Gonna do 24x or 58x crank? Gonna keep the stock 411 / P01 ECU?
map - LS1 style works fine, but I recommend extending harness to install up front for accissibility
coolant temp - stock ls1
OPSU - stock ls1
Crank/cam - depends on set up. Might need to either extend harness if you stay 24x or get lingenfelter conversion box.
O2's - Stock LS1. if you get covfefe sensors, the cables are longer, which helps with long tubes
MAF - no maf is best maf
air temps - stock ls1
Knocks - if possible, stick with stock ls1 knocks and location. performance is never as good in any other configuration unless you upgrade to a gen4 ECU
Gonna do 24x or 58x crank? Gonna keep the stock 411 / P01 ECU?
map - LS1 style works fine, but I recommend extending harness to install up front for accissibility
coolant temp - stock ls1
OPSU - stock ls1
Crank/cam - depends on set up. Might need to either extend harness if you stay 24x or get lingenfelter conversion box.
O2's - Stock LS1. if you get covfefe sensors, the cables are longer, which helps with long tubes
MAF - no maf is best maf
air temps - stock ls1
Knocks - if possible, stick with stock ls1 knocks and location. performance is never as good in any other configuration unless you upgrade to a gen4 ECU
Drawing a blank on anything else.
I am planning to stick with 24 tooth and the 411 ECU. Are you saying that I should keep the knock sensors in the valley cover? I didn't think that was possible with a GenIV engine?
I am planning to stick with 24 tooth and the 411 ECU. Are you saying that I should keep the knock sensors in the valley cover? I didn't think that was possible with a GenIV engine?
It is not possible. I was not sure if your block was gen 3 or 4. Easy enough. You will need to extend harness for cam sensor. Will need gen 4 front cover. There is a certain timing set you will want from cloyes. Drawing a blank though.
Knocks - you will need extension harness and drill and tap the block for the gen 3 knocks
It is not possible. I was not sure if your block was gen 3 or 4. Easy enough. You will need to extend harness for cam sensor. Will need gen 4 front cover. There is a certain timing set you will want from cloyes. Drawing a blank though.
Knocks - you will need extension harness and drill and tap the block for the gen 3 knocks
Tony spec'd a Cloyes timing set.
Thanks for your inputs. I am going to update the parts list.
It is not possible. I was not sure if your block was gen 3 or 4. Easy enough. You will need to extend harness for cam sensor. Will need gen 4 front cover. There is a certain timing set you will want from cloyes. Drawing a blank though.
Knocks - you will need extension harness and drill and tap the block for the gen 3 knocks
Even with the Improved Racing crank scraper and windage tray?
Yes, you want the extra oil capacity in the motor. Under a hard launch the front part of the engine is suffering from starvation of oil. By having more oil in the pan helps the problem but don't fix the issue.
When guys take apart engines the front Crank bearings are known to be in worser shape vs the rest of them.
Look at this car below.... where you think all the oil is at in the oil pan on the launch ?
Yes, you want the extra oil capacity in the motor. Under a hard launch the front part of the engine is suffering from starvation of oil. By having more oil in the pan helps the problem but don't fix the issue.
When guys take apart engines the front Crank bearings are known to be in worser shape vs the rest of them.
Look at this car below.... where you think all the oil is at in the oil pan on the launch ?
Thanks for the inputs. What are good options for an aftermarket oil pan that will not decrease ground clearance?
Thanks. If they stick out too far, I'll do the ICT Billet relocation block.
They are really tight with the starter on that side and a pain. They also suck for tuning from that position and will be even worse with the ICT billet relocation block. To be honest I tossed the knock sensors, changed diagnostics to no report for the knock sensors in the tune, and tune based off plug reading instead.