Floorman279

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many of the the old timers on here believe if you add more oil flow or pressure a deeper pan is an absolute must. i used a stock pan, improved scraper, pickup tube about 3/8" from bottom, still had severe pressure loss at WOT......i then swapped pans, never got it back on that motor to see if problem is solved.

you can find pans on here from time to time. the stock k member needed some clearancing for the moroso tho. any 7-7.5 quart pan should be fine

Floorman279

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also improved racing said their scraper wont work with the moroso......my builder said their was no issues with it.....

FCar2000TA

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Canton 13-270 is actually slightly shorter than the stock pan.

Tuskyz28

I haven't looked into awhile but Vengeance Racing did a 2002 camaro SS 502ci build in GMHTP magazine years ago and that build consisted of a Canton oil pan to clear that crank. If anyone have that magazine the part number is in there.

FCar2000TA

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I sent an e-mail to Improved Racing asking if their crank scraper/windage tray will fit the Canton 13-270.

Corona

if and when using the Improved Racing crank scraper it lists Different cranks and Rods....

But all are used with a stock style Windage tray and Factory style pan. That they sell or provide. 😉

Aftermarket pan and it's Windage tray will need a little modification. Nothing major but will Need.

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FCar2000TA

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The block arrived at R.E.D. today!

FCar2000TA

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Cam should be delivered today.

What is the LS1 cam equivalent of this 235/247 116 + 3 cam in a 434CID? I am just curious.

FCar2000TA

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I am adding Kooks 3" over the axle true duals to the list. Hopefully I can make that happen.

Darth_V8r

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Something like 222/230-115

Launch

Just wondering why you chose such a small cam for a 434ci? I have a 243/250 .660 108 +2 in a 6.0 litre ls2, and i have it idling at 980rpm and it drives excellent. Even at very light part throttle the torque is better than the previous smaller cammed 5.7 i had.

440_Stroker

I'm curious about the cam selection as well. I didn't go wild but didn't go too tame, in my opinion. 247/261 114+4, and mine idles awesome at 850. I am probably going to up it though just a hair.

BCNUL8R

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The centri cam in my little 377 is 232/248 116 with a 112 centerline. Idle walk around video when I first had the new setup together with a base/safe tune. Pretty tame really.

cino

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I’m not used to big inch LS engines and all these cams look huge to me. Even the one Eric picked looks big to me and thought I wouldn’t go any bigger. But when DartV8r mentioned it compares to 222/230 in Ls1, that is small for such high flowing heads. When I get to build my 427 (block waiting in queue for Darton sleeves at RED) I will probably end up with solid roller equivalent of what 440Stroker has in his 440.
Eric plans to add supercharger later on, this may be a reason for the cam on small side with wide LSA.

cino

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That’s needed for letting big inch engine breathe.
Kooks 3 inch TD is loud. Are there any quieter 3 inch mufflers that could be used instead?

I got Blackheart 2.5 TD system just a year ago. Chose it, because it is on the quiet side. I like to be able to start the car at 5:30 am without upsetting neighbours and avoid unwanted attention from police.
I had loud exhaust system before and would not take the car to work for this reason. Didn’t drive it all that much. This will become an issue when my Darton sleeved engine is completed and ready to install.

440_Stroker

I have one complaint of mine but it all depends on your setup. The large split makes for some cam surge. Even with hours of street tuning it still exists in lower gears under 1,800 rpms but I think with a little more time it can be all but eliminated. It can be avoided by choosing your gear but it can make parking lot driving a little tedious. It sounds awesome, rips on the top end, and though the mid range could be more with other cam options it still makes plenty of torque to make traction an issue. Mine is a 6 speed manual with a 20 lb flywheel which is about 4-6 lbs lighter than factory. I've not measured a factory one and I see 24-26 lbs reported.

grinder11

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You picked the right guy to sleeve it. I had Steve do Dartons on a 427 build, maybe 16 years ago. Just before the LS7 block was available. Nobody does better work...... Anyway, it's a good thing you got a real good rear end in that Dana 60. Can you imagine the motor your building with the stocker rear end?!! Be like throwing a match into a fireworks factory!!!

grinder11

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EVERYONE needs a wife like that!!!! If you get as lucky with your engine build picks, as you did picking your wife, it'll make 800whp, and get 30mpg!!!!

Darth_V8r

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If it has to be one or the other pick the power

440_Stroker

Agreed. You can re-sleeve a block and re-ring a piston. Try that with a woman.