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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 09:03 AM
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650rwhp? This isn't even the Race Engine I was talking about 🤣😂
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-601-rwhp.html

It's got a few trick parts in the heads and valvetrain, and a huge amount of knowledge/knowhow in it between Erik at HKE and Greg Good though, but nothing that can't be duplicated with the right amount of money.

Of course, here's an example of what a standard-port TFS cylinder head and hyd. roller is capable of in the hands of the the same people:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/texas-mem...as-record.html

If you have a particular goal, your best bet is to talk to a BUILDER who has actually accomplished it before
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​​​​​​​You can Make Hp with Pretty much anything. It's all in The Knowledge of and the ***** to go after it.

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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Corona
There's Rules to this 💩 if you want a good Combination.
One you don't Purchase a 3 or 4 inch Intake runner length and Don't Plan to go to 8500.

It's the Law of Avg's and Where you Grade yourself in between Idle and your Given Peak.

Gear the car Correctly for the: Rpm,Weight, and intended Use.

Pick a head 1st and its Intake. It's a Complete System.
Then cam/springs
Gear it to match ☝️.

The cam Should be Based on the cars Weight and Intended use. Should make for a great Build No Matter What head is used. 😉
This is Good. Basic. Common. SENSE!
But WHO does that anymore??
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JRFed
Depending on your budget and or goal. 243s with a good port bigger valves intake/exhaust hydraulic roller deal you can hit 650+ to the tire with some compression.
What's the end goal? Track/Street or more track?
With 243s? How so?
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 01:16 PM
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👆 Bspeck didn't get the Memo 📝 on 243's. It's one of those ok so I'm gonna use them and How can we Make Hp with these things


🤔 Bigger intake valve Always generally works with Porting +Solid Roller cam.

​​​​​​The very same 408 + 243' heads @ 601rwhp & 11½ Comp with More compression Would be going in the Right direction and or a Larger combination.


Once a person gets that you can Make Hp with Pretty Much Anything. You notice that HP doesn't Care Who's Name is on it for Badging. Reason for Knowing the Basics and it's Formulas and what's Possible.

I researched builds until I found someone to Show me how to use the Formula. Now I see how they go hand in hand. People get Stuck on CFM and Not the combination of parts.
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Corona
👆 Bspeck didn't get the Memo 📝 on 243's. It's one of those ok so I'm gonna use them and How can we Make Hp with these things


🤔 Bigger intake valve Always generally works with Porting +Solid Roller cam.

​​​​​​The very same 408 + 243' heads @ 601rwhp & 11½ Comp with More compression Would be going in the Right direction and or a Larger combination.


Once a person gets that you can Make Hp with Pretty Much Anything. You notice that HP doesn't Care Who's Name is on it for Badging. Reason for Knowing the Basics and it's Formulas and what's Possible.

I researched builds until I found someone to Show me how to use the Formula. Now I see how they go hand in hand. People get Stuck on CFM and Not the combination of parts.
I have ported 243s with a 2.08 intake valve. I have a hydraulic roller cam. You telling me a solid roller will grant me an additional 100 rwhp?
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 02:22 PM
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I mean of it was full race car moving out to 8300+ then ya I could see that but you wont be driving it on the street
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
I have ported 243s with a 2.08 intake valve. I have a hydraulic roller cam. You telling me a solid roller will grant me an additional 100 rwhp?
Tell me the entire Combination and I'm sure we can find more Throw in the flow @ .200 .400 .600 700 if flowed above .700

If a 408 can get 600 rwhp with 243's? What did they stop Making or Porting 243"s and making 408's and Larger sized engines?

Look @ the guys Spec's with the 600rwhp 415 & 243"s? Does this look like Something you'd be Willing to do? Compression could go up some?

Hp is like a Fight you've Got to Either want it / Out Think it

Or

Throw $ @ it.
Both Require spending $ not as much so on the front end with the 1st one.


I Live to think of how to Out smart my Opponent that's not even there nor do they know that there seen as a Opponent.

It's a Want not Need!

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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 04:05 PM
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Another Reason for my Trainer/ Teacher. See 1 do 1
give it the Name Street. Also typically if I'm Way off in Outer Space, my Trainer Will Step in And Correct me.
It's like a College Professor looking at his pupil. Cause I for Damn Sure ⌚ Him.

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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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Free thought to Anyone.... I said it Earlier if no one caught it.

It's like a Fight.
A person May have a Build in there Mind..🤔
Some may post a Thread. I will Leave you guys this one idea some Do. You see a build you like You copy the Recipe + Add Futher Development to What they Have Done. You were Given the Answers.

guys Do it Here all the Time with using Certain Names? I say it can Be Done With Any and Everything you've just gotta Know What your looking 4. Then a good Porter.

Greg Isn't the Only Guy who could get a set of 243's to do good HP. Once you get a Baseline and a Porter Who's Willing?

I see your Build then I Raise the Stakes from your Answers on Your Build.

I'm not Stupid it's free With A Google search for a Baseline from your Build.

Now how Simple is that. 😹🤣
And do You Know a Cylinder Head Porter Who's Willing.
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I just wanna know what strain your smoking!
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
I just wanna know what strain your smoking!
This corona dudes clearly on his death bed with corona virus 😂
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 12:03 AM
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I just wanna know what strain your smoking!
Originally Posted by Mavn
This corona dudes clearly on his death bed with corona virus 😂
I used to work with a shop that did R&D for cup teams. They paid us millions and millions...repeat, millions and millions to find 30-35 hp. Corona could have done it for under a grand...it’s so easy a caveman can do it.
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
I used to work with a shop that did R&D for cup teams. They paid us millions and millions...repeat, millions and millions to find 30-35 hp. Corona could have done it for under a grand...it’s so easy a caveman can do it.
Fed said it was possible. I just want to know if that was possible in street/strip car or a full race engine.
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 12:24 AM
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I used to work with a shop that did R&D for cup teams. They paid us millions and millions...repeat, millions and millions to find 30-35 hp. Corona could have done it for under a grand...it’s so easy a caveman can do it.
Lmfaoo!!

That corona vaccine making people lose their minds
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:02 AM
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Oh its a Case of I got ... How about all the Same 🖕'ing Guys Buy A Mamo top end

What's the 🖕ing Difference. 427/43x/44x/45x.

All you guys have a Undersized head With Comp in the Upper range and typically a solid roller. Don't forget your MSD Nor your Yellow Terra. What's your cam Spec's 250's Avg.

But it's not a copy of seen 1 you've Seen them all.
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:04 AM
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If I've got something the same guy must have a Case of BS.
btw Chevelle millon dollar cup team $ isn't needed to Goggle or read about what someone did with a build. Guys list it for Free. No $ for research needed.

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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Corona
Oh its a Case of I got ... How about all the Same 🖕'ing Guys Buy A Mamo top end

What's the 🖕ing Difference. 427/43x/44x/45x.

All you guys have a Undersized head With Comp in the Upper range and typically a solid roller. Don't forget your MSD Nor your Yellow Terra. What's your cam Spec's 250's Avg.

But it's not a copy of seen 1 you've Seen them all.
English plz, i have no idea what youre saying
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:13 AM
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Take the middle finger and it's the F Word.
x = a number 45x could be a 454 or 450 cubic inches.
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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:22 AM
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I'd ask what's the Difference with you guys Mamo top ends Besides the Tq from the 2.9ish CSA vs a good Factory ported head with Similar compression not the typical I had 11.5 now I got 12.5. or the ported intake.

About 30 Foot pounds if All were Equal. 30 million for some basic 💩

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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:25 AM
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My guy doesn't sell me on Anything he just Tells me the Truth on Any head I may ask about.

That's the difference
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