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Old 03-16-2008, 02:35 AM
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Hey guys,

help me spec a cam for my L98. This is the Aus version of a LS2 with L92 heads and L76 intake.(We were lucky to get em this way)

The car has potential for high 11s bolt on with M6. Want a cam to give me a nice bump in hp across the revs.

I am a bit concerned about intake profiles. Apparently these are hard to cam in 6.0L form.

BTW lots of good info here
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PM edcmat-l1 and have him get you going. If you would like to talk to him just click on the link in my sig.
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Originally Posted by 1997bird
PM edcmat-l1 and have him get you going. If you would like to talk to him just click on the link in my sig.
The fact of the matter is that while Ed provide labor, dyno and his excellent tuning expertise, the cam choice and heads were the result of conversations between Richard at WCCH and I.

Just setting the record straight.

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Originally Posted by WKMCD
The fact of the matter is that while Ed provide labor, dyno and his excellent tuning expertise, the cam choice and heads were the result of conversions between Richard at WCCH and I.

Just setting the record straight.
Sorry there Kevin, I didn't know about that. But seriously, Ed knows how to spec cam's out as well for the L92 cylinder heads.
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Kevin speced me a 226-236 on 114. This only has a 3 deg overlap. While the exhaust is opened longer it will help flow but it may also introduce reversion.

A tighter split maybe safer. Most of the guys getting numbers with 6.0L are only running 4 to 8 degree split.

Not sure about the fast ramp XE-R's. Are slower ramp XE the better choice or slower ramp cammotion.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by 1997bird
Sorry there Kevin, I didn't know about that. But seriously, Ed knows how to spec cam's out as well for the L92 cylinder heads.
Ed knows his stuff. I just want to make sure that Richard doesn't feel slighted. He's very sensitive.
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Originally Posted by hymey
Kevin speced me a 226-236 on 114. This only has a 3 deg overlap. While the exhaust is opened longer it will help flow but it may also introduce reversion.

A tighter split maybe safer. Most of the guys getting numbers with 6.0L are only running 4 to 8 degree split.

Not sure about the fast ramp XE-R's. Are slower ramp XE the better choice or slower ramp cammotion.

Cheers

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Joel, I don't think reversion is going to be a problem at 236 on the exhaust. Pushing the exhaust out a little will help it roll over nicely on top.
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We've got a PCM swap -updated to the 2001 - scheduled for next month when Ed get's back from his trip to Germany to install a stoker he built. Ed's going to repin the entire PCM. We're also going to install the composite posts in the RAM Dual clutch to stop the rattle.

Still waiting on a Weind or FAST manifold....
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Anymore info on the 6.0/L92 stuff?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
We've got a PCM swap -updated to the 2001 - scheduled for next month when Ed get's back from his trip to Germany to install a stoker he built. Ed's going to repin the entire PCM. We're also going to install the composite posts in the RAM Dual clutch to stop the rattle.

Still waiting on a Weind or FAST manifold....
I think you'll be really happy with the updated PCM and tuning capabilities.
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
Its funny, months after writing what you quoted me on, I learned at least on leading cyl head shop was doing just that, reducing intake valve size, and picking up power. I dont think they are increasing the exhaust valve size though.
Theres also been some improvements in the exhaust port CNC work by WCCH, and Richard has informed me that they're seeing great results from just that.
In the beginning of Feb, we will be trying a variety of camshafts in an L92 headed 6.0. I hope to have some good info for everyone around that same time. Possibly verifying or dispelling some myths.
The saga continues.......................
BTW, no results on WKMCDs this weekend. Its miserable here in the mid Atlantic region.
did you do any of this testing?
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Originally Posted by ls1408cp
did you do any of this testing?
Not yet. Waiting for a lull in the action. We've been extremely busy.
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I have a 226 232 114+0 cam on XE lobes. Keen to try it out.
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Originally Posted by hymey
I have a 226 232 114+0 cam on XE lobes. Keen to try it out.
Should be a tractor but may run out a little early- IMHO

Let us know. We're all still learning on these builds.

Good luck,

Kevin
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Yeah it will pull hard down low. I went in SS Enforcers car which has 450 rwhp on a dyno dynamics Aus dyno. It has a 224 228 114+2. It revved very well and matches the L76 intake. I have gone a little bigger I may even mill the heads 30 thou.
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Originally Posted by hymey
I may even mill the heads 30 thou.
Be careful. I started with 12:1 and dropped it to 11:3. That allowed me to run another 5 degrees of timing and picked up RWHP. These heads love timing more than the catheral port heads. What CR are you running now?
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Stock cam, 10.5:1 comp. The stock cams have 120 LSA so dynamic comp will be quite high. I have 26 degrees in it with no sign of knock. I found best power at 13.0:1 with this timing however going from 25 to 26 degrees picked up 7 hp. 27 maybe more but I stopped there for safety. Remember my DCR would be higher than yours with stock cam plus our fuel isnt as good as yours. Once the cam is in I will run 31 degrees total.
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someone calculate me DCR for a LS2 with L92 heads, 226 232 114+0 cam with 10.5:1 comp. I dont have a calculator for this. If it is down on what works I can bump comp to 11.3:1 like Kev's motor
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Originally Posted by hymey
Stock cam, 10.5:1 comp. The stock cams have 120 LSA so dynamic comp will be quite high. I have 26 degrees in it with no sign of knock. I found best power at 13.0:1 with this timing however going from 25 to 26 degrees picked up 7 hp. 27 maybe more but I stopped there for safety. Remember my DCR would be higher than yours with stock cam plus our fuel isnt as good as yours. Once the cam is in I will run 31 degrees total.
If you're sure you're only at 10.5 you can put a bunch more timing in it. Theres more power to be made. You'll def see more power with the timing over 30 deg.
If you're on 91 octane, you may not be able to go much over 30-31.
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At this stage the combo im looking at for my promo car is a 408ci L92 cnc heads or some et's$$, solid cam but not sure on the intake. Im very close to putting on a single carb setup just to see what it does on the engine dyno but will end up running efi i would say.I will keep you guys posted as we go with the build. Goal is to run into the 8's with a couple of hundred hp of gas. It will be in a VT commodore with a little bit of weight taken out and driven on the street.


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